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Sources told MLB.com on Thursday night that the Phillies and Victorino have agreed to a three-year contract extension worth $22 million, which would keep him under contract with Philadelphia through 2012. The extension buys out Victorino's final two years of salary arbitration and his first year of free agency.
The agreement with Victorino follows the announcement the Phillies had signed Blanton to a three-year, $24 million extension. Phillies assistant general manager Scott Proefrock said Thursday the Phillies also could lock up Ruiz to a new contract before the end of next week.
Victorino's contract details were unavailable, but an official announcement could come Friday.
Victorino hit .292 with 39 doubles, 13 triples, 10 home runs, 62 RBIs and 25 stolen bases last season. He made his first National League All-Star team and earned his second consecutive Gold Glove.
Victorino had sought $5.8 million in arbitration. The Phillies had offered $4.75 million.
entrambi i prolungamenti mi sembra che siano giusti per la durata offerta, un pò troppo l'esborso per le ns casse.
Certo che l'hawaiano volante è un ns idolo e perciò sn felicissimo che abbia prolungato!
The agreement with Victorino follows the announcement the Phillies had signed Blanton to a three-year, $24 million extension. Phillies assistant general manager Scott Proefrock said Thursday the Phillies also could lock up Ruiz to a new contract before the end of next week.
Victorino's contract details were unavailable, but an official announcement could come Friday.
Victorino hit .292 with 39 doubles, 13 triples, 10 home runs, 62 RBIs and 25 stolen bases last season. He made his first National League All-Star team and earned his second consecutive Gold Glove.
Victorino had sought $5.8 million in arbitration. The Phillies had offered $4.75 million.
entrambi i prolungamenti mi sembra che siano giusti per la durata offerta, un pò troppo l'esborso per le ns casse.
Certo che l'hawaiano volante è un ns idolo e perciò sn felicissimo che abbia prolungato!
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Dai su entrambe i prolungamenti ci stanno e non sono neanche troppo troppo cari, quello dell'Hawaiano è perfetto, forse un po troppo quello di Blanton ma tutto sommato si è rimasti sotto i 10 all'anno e questo è importante.
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Si, ma adesso salta di nuovo la scusa che non ci siano soldi per estendere Werth.
Insomma... non ci sono soldi per Cliff Lee, ma ci sono per Blanton. Non ci sono soldi per Werth ma ci sono per Victorino. Mah.
Insomma... non ci sono soldi per Cliff Lee, ma ci sono per Blanton. Non ci sono soldi per Werth ma ci sono per Victorino. Mah.
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A me sto Ruben Amaro jr sembra un tonno di dimensioni clamorose.
Ragazzo, quando partecipi a un evento sportivo quello che conta non è vincere o perdere, ma quanto ti ubriachi
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No beh se deve andare a finire così è proprio un coglionazzo dai....rene144 wrote: Si, ma adesso salta di nuovo la scusa che non ci siano soldi per estendere Werth.
Insomma... non ci sono soldi per Cliff Lee, ma ci sono per Blanton. Non ci sono soldi per Werth ma ci sono per Victorino. Mah.
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Beh, metà è già andata così.The Answer Palermitano wrote: No beh se deve andare a finire così è proprio un coglionazzo dai....![]()
La parte di Werth e Victorino è già più comprensibile, volendo, perchè Dom Brown può giocare RF ma non CF. Ma quello che non capisco è il senso delle mosse... prima manda via il più forte SP della squadra perchè non ci sono soldi, poi li spende altrove e ne spende anzi molti di più e per più anni. Parla di futuro (e questa era un'altra ragione per cedere Lee, in teoria, ossia per accumulare prospetti) ma poi firma anziani come Ibanez e Polanco a contratti triennali. La squadra fa mosse contraddittorie.
Amaro ha ereditato uno squadrone, è chiaro. Però non so per quanto rimarrà tale. La farm è stata svuotata ed a parte Brown manca il ricambio, Werth si avvicina alla free agency, Ibanez e Polanco non ringiovaniscono e Rollins sta declinando. Mah, sono perplesso più che altro. Comunque i Phillies rimangono fra le 3 squadre più forti della NL anche così.
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ti prego Renè basta girare il coltello nella piaga! che Amaro è un coglione ormai lo sanno anche i bambini!!!!!rene144 wrote: Si, ma adesso salta di nuovo la scusa che non ci siano soldi per estendere Werth.
Insomma... non ci sono soldi per Cliff Lee, ma ci sono per Blanton. Non ci sono soldi per Werth ma ci sono per Victorino. Mah.
ma a me l'incazzatura deve passare almeno per l'opening day, così è un continuo torturarmi!!!!!
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E vabbè, dai, si parla. Siete bicampioni NL in carica comunque (con un titolo WS), quindi bene o male una consolazione l'avete.Phillies wrote: ti prego Renè basta girare il coltello nella piaga! che Amaro è un coglione ormai lo sanno anche i bambini!!!!!
ma a me l'incazzatura deve passare almeno per l'opening day, così è un continuo torturarmi!!!!!
Per dire... Friedman è più bravo ma credo che a Tampa preferiscano la vostra situazione globale nonostante tutto.
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infatti penso che con il peso del contratto di Ibanez e Brown che salirà non ci sia spazio per rinnovare Jasone! mi consolo col tuo giudizio su Brown....rene144 wrote: Beh, metà è già andata così.
La parte di Werth e Victorino è già più comprensibile, volendo, perchè Dom Brown può giocare RF ma non CF.
Comunque i Phillies rimangono fra le 3 squadre più forti della NL anche così.
Tra le 3, ok noi e i Cardinals, chi è per te la 3' nel 2010? io direi Dodgers anche se per me si sn indeboliti rispetto al 2009
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bè hai ragione che dopo 2 anni passati come gli ultimi, potrei anche non lamentarmi, ma sai uno si abitua a certe cose.....e torniamo sempre al punto che il ns 2010 poteva essere in stile "yankeesiano"rene144 wrote: E vabbè, dai, si parla. Siete bicampioni NL in carica comunque (con un titolo WS), quindi bene o male una consolazione l'avete.
Per dire... Friedman è più bravo ma credo che a Tampa preferiscano la vostra situazione globale nonostante tutto.
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Earlier today, Jayson Stark said that the Phillies backed off on John Smoltz, but were interested in Jose Contreras. ESPN’s Enrique Rojas is reporting that the Phillies have agreed to a one-year deal with Contreras, pending a physical.
Because Smoltz wants to start, the Phillies moved onto Contreras, who will serve as a right-handed reliever and take over Clay Condrey’s role. Contreras, 38, went 6-13 with a 4.92 ERA and a 1.47 WHIP with the Chicago White Sox and Colorado Rockies in 131.2 innings last year.
Contreras has had an up-and-down career, never fulfilling the potential the Yankees saw in him when they signed the Cuban exile in 2003. He had a promising rookie season in New York, making 18 appearances (9 starts,) and going 7-2 with a 3.30 ERA, a 1.15 WHIP, and 72 strikeouts in 71 innings. But he struggled mightily the following year and was traded to the White Sox for Esteban Loaiza, a journeyman righthander coming off of a career year (21-9, 2.90 ERA, 2nd in AL Cy Young voting in ‘03.)
Contreras played an integral role in the White Sox championship season of 2005, finishing 15-7 with a 3.61 ERA and a 1.23 WHIP. Nearly every stat Contreras compiled in 2005 was a full-season career best, and he expanded upon that success by pitching three gems in the playoffs.
Despite an adequate follow-up season in 2006, Contreras fell off completely in 2007, losing 17 games and producing a 5.57 ERA while allowing 11 hits per nine innings and striking out only 5.4/9. He never truly recovered from that horrid ‘07 season and was traded from the White Sox to the Rockies on August 31, 2009.
Upon joining the Rockies, Contreras made 7 appearances and two starts. One of the starts lasted a mere three innings; in the other he allowed only one run over 6 2/3 IP. His 1.59 ERA in those 7 appearances (17 IP) was impressive, as were his 17 strikeouts, but his 1.65 WHIP was too high.
Here, he will try to recapture the success he once had as a starting pitcher and make a case for himself in Spring Training, but if things don’t work out, he’ll serve as a middle reliever. Contreras appears to be better suited as a bullpen arm at this point in his career because he hasn’t shown an ability to sustain success throughout the course of a season since the magical ‘05 ride he took with the White Sox.
Like Chan Ho Park, Contreras has displayed much more velocity out of the bullpen. His fastball has long hovered in the 91-92 mph average, but shot up to 94 as a reliever in limited time in Colorado. He throws his fastball 66% of the time, but also sports an 84-86 mph slider and a 77-79 mph splitter.
Contreras will fit in well at Citizens Bank Park because he has always displayed the ability to get outs on the ground. He has a career ground ball rate of 46%, compared to a fly ball rate of 36%, 1/3 of which have been infield flies. His groundball/flyball ratios of 1.33, 1.72, and 1.24 over the last three seasons have been impressive, and he’ll need to replicate that success in order to succeed in Philadelphia.
He can be a bit wild, evidenced by the fact that in his career, only 50-51% of pitches thrown have been in the strike zone. Hitters know this and tend to lay off of Contreras’ junk, swinging at only 22% of his pitches outside the zone (league average has been 25% or higher the last three years.)
In split duty between starting and relieving last year, Contreras was worth 24.7 runs above replacement and 2.5 wins above replacement.
This was a low-risk, high-reward signing for the Phillies. It won’t make or break their season and it won’t automatically cost Jamie Moyer or Kyle Kendrick a shot at the fifth starter’s job, but it will create more competition for the spot and give the Phillies more rotation and bullpen depth. Year in and year out, nearly every major league team proves that you can never have enough starting pitching.
If Contreras ends up in the ‘pen, you can be assured the Phillies will be looking for that 94 mph fastball to resurface. If it does, and Contreras can continue to be a ground ball pitcher, he could have plenty of success with the Phillies exceptional defense behind him.
Worst case scenario: Contreras is ineffective and used sparingly out of the pen.
Best case scenario: He cracks the rotation or makes the catcher’s mitt pop out of the bullpen, hopefully becoming the 2010 version of Chan Ho Park.
When looking at those potential outcomes, it’s hard to argue with any one-year deal.
ringrazio pubblicamente Louis che mi ha avvisato della firma via sms mentre ero in giro: Grazie!
Because Smoltz wants to start, the Phillies moved onto Contreras, who will serve as a right-handed reliever and take over Clay Condrey’s role. Contreras, 38, went 6-13 with a 4.92 ERA and a 1.47 WHIP with the Chicago White Sox and Colorado Rockies in 131.2 innings last year.
Contreras has had an up-and-down career, never fulfilling the potential the Yankees saw in him when they signed the Cuban exile in 2003. He had a promising rookie season in New York, making 18 appearances (9 starts,) and going 7-2 with a 3.30 ERA, a 1.15 WHIP, and 72 strikeouts in 71 innings. But he struggled mightily the following year and was traded to the White Sox for Esteban Loaiza, a journeyman righthander coming off of a career year (21-9, 2.90 ERA, 2nd in AL Cy Young voting in ‘03.)
Contreras played an integral role in the White Sox championship season of 2005, finishing 15-7 with a 3.61 ERA and a 1.23 WHIP. Nearly every stat Contreras compiled in 2005 was a full-season career best, and he expanded upon that success by pitching three gems in the playoffs.
Despite an adequate follow-up season in 2006, Contreras fell off completely in 2007, losing 17 games and producing a 5.57 ERA while allowing 11 hits per nine innings and striking out only 5.4/9. He never truly recovered from that horrid ‘07 season and was traded from the White Sox to the Rockies on August 31, 2009.
Upon joining the Rockies, Contreras made 7 appearances and two starts. One of the starts lasted a mere three innings; in the other he allowed only one run over 6 2/3 IP. His 1.59 ERA in those 7 appearances (17 IP) was impressive, as were his 17 strikeouts, but his 1.65 WHIP was too high.
Here, he will try to recapture the success he once had as a starting pitcher and make a case for himself in Spring Training, but if things don’t work out, he’ll serve as a middle reliever. Contreras appears to be better suited as a bullpen arm at this point in his career because he hasn’t shown an ability to sustain success throughout the course of a season since the magical ‘05 ride he took with the White Sox.
Like Chan Ho Park, Contreras has displayed much more velocity out of the bullpen. His fastball has long hovered in the 91-92 mph average, but shot up to 94 as a reliever in limited time in Colorado. He throws his fastball 66% of the time, but also sports an 84-86 mph slider and a 77-79 mph splitter.
Contreras will fit in well at Citizens Bank Park because he has always displayed the ability to get outs on the ground. He has a career ground ball rate of 46%, compared to a fly ball rate of 36%, 1/3 of which have been infield flies. His groundball/flyball ratios of 1.33, 1.72, and 1.24 over the last three seasons have been impressive, and he’ll need to replicate that success in order to succeed in Philadelphia.
He can be a bit wild, evidenced by the fact that in his career, only 50-51% of pitches thrown have been in the strike zone. Hitters know this and tend to lay off of Contreras’ junk, swinging at only 22% of his pitches outside the zone (league average has been 25% or higher the last three years.)
In split duty between starting and relieving last year, Contreras was worth 24.7 runs above replacement and 2.5 wins above replacement.
This was a low-risk, high-reward signing for the Phillies. It won’t make or break their season and it won’t automatically cost Jamie Moyer or Kyle Kendrick a shot at the fifth starter’s job, but it will create more competition for the spot and give the Phillies more rotation and bullpen depth. Year in and year out, nearly every major league team proves that you can never have enough starting pitching.
If Contreras ends up in the ‘pen, you can be assured the Phillies will be looking for that 94 mph fastball to resurface. If it does, and Contreras can continue to be a ground ball pitcher, he could have plenty of success with the Phillies exceptional defense behind him.
Worst case scenario: Contreras is ineffective and used sparingly out of the pen.
Best case scenario: He cracks the rotation or makes the catcher’s mitt pop out of the bullpen, hopefully becoming the 2010 version of Chan Ho Park.
When looking at those potential outcomes, it’s hard to argue with any one-year deal.
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Ho messo 3 proprio perchè una squadra ogni anno può uscire come mezza sorpresa. Davanti ci sono Phillies e Cardinals, ma non sarei sorpreso se ci fosse una grande stagione da parte dei Dodgers o dei Braves o dei Rockies, una di quelle stagioni con pochi infortuni e qualche career year. Con Jarrod Parker sano (così come Brandon Webb) avrei detto anche i Diamondbacks, che però così partono chiaramente indietro (ma non fuori del tutto... il lineup è insospettabilmente buono per me).Phillies wrote: Tra le 3, ok noi e i Cardinals, chi è per te la 3' nel 2010? io direi Dodgers anche se per me si sn indeboliti rispetto al 2009
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condivido, vedo soprattutto un buon futuro davanti ai Braves, potrebbero prendere tra breve il ns posto nella Nl east, certo la rotazione non può bastare da sola, vedremo!rene144 wrote: Ho messo 3 proprio perchè una squadra ogni anno può uscire come mezza sorpresa. Davanti ci sono Phillies e Cardinals, ma non sarei sorpreso se ci fosse una grande stagione da parte dei Dodgers o dei Braves o dei Rockies, una di quelle stagioni con pochi infortuni e qualche career year. Con Jarrod Parker sano (così come Brandon Webb) avrei detto anche i Diamondbacks, che però così partono chiaramente indietro (ma non fuori del tutto... il lineup è insospettabilmente buono per me).
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dai prendiamo anche Gagne o meglio scommettiamo anche qualche $ su Gagne e giuro non mi lamento più!
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