vestanik wrote:
Adesso tento di riorganizzare le idee finchè aspetto il SNF, intanto si può dire solo una cosa: ridicoli!
io dico solo una cosa: in questa lega è impossibile giocare senza allenatore.
a me non frega un cazzo se ha guadagnato il rispetto della squadra, o se si professa duro o altre cagate. questo non ha idea di cosa voglia dire allenare, a partire dalle scelte del personale arrivando alle situazioni più tattiche. ha voluto portare con sè un gioco fatto di corse che non è mai appartenuto a questa franchigia, non è minimamente in grado di sfruttare i giocatori a sua disposizione, ha preso due OL al primo giro apposta e il risultato è quello di stasera. poi mi viene a parlare di "tough team", di "smash mouth" (non voglio più vedere e sentire ste due schifose parole) e la squadra si scioglie come neve al sole alla prima difficoltà.
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mr.kerouac wrote:
io dico solo una cosa: in questa lega è impossibile giocare senza allenatore.
a me non frega un cazzo se ha guadagnato il rispetto della squadra, o se si professa duro o altre cagate. questo non ha idea di cosa voglia dire allenare, a partire dalle scelte del personale arrivando alle situazioni più tattiche. ha voluto portare con sè un gioco fatto di corse che non è mai appartenuto a questa franchigia, non è minimamente in grado di sfruttare i giocatori a sua disposizione, ha preso due OL al primo giro apposta e il risultato è quello di stasera. poi mi viene a parlare di "tough team", di "smash mouth" (non voglio più vedere e sentire ste due schifose parole) e la squadra si scioglie come neve al sole alla prima difficoltà.
Comincio anch'io a stufarmi di queste boutade e di vedere poi in campo che ci asfaltano come stasera!
Aggiungo inoltre che ormai mi sembra evidente che anche la questione QB comincia ad essere insostenibile: Smith quando la gara la devi recuperare non ha mai dato la sensazione di poterla riprendere ed anche oggi ha confermato tutto ciò!
Inoltre continua ad avere problemi di tocco per le play action come nell'occasione del 4&1 non convertito!
vestanik wrote:
Comincio anch'io a stufarmi di queste boutade e di vedere poi in campo che ci asfaltano come stasera!
Aggiungo inoltre che ormai mi sembra evidente che anche la questione QB comincia ad essere insostenibile: Smith quando la gara la devi recuperare non ha mai dato la sensazione di poterla riprendere ed anche oggi ha confermato tutto ciò!
Inoltre continua ad avere problemi di tocco per le play action come nell'occasione del 4&1 non convertito!
verissimo. aggiungo che, seppur la linea abbia fatto ridere (io non sono mai stato convinto che Staley sia un franchise-LT), lui sembra sempre ultrafrenetico, mai tranquillo, e spesso fa fatica a prendere la decisione giusta (un sacco di terzi e lungo giocati nel flat). inoltre, vedendo le altre partite, non so perchè, ma le nostre partite sembrano sempre più lente... boh
Ci sono squadre che a certe temperature si squagliano, altre che lievitano. Classe, storia: Milan. "mr.kerouac [...] sa essere cattivo con pochissime parole". (Angyair)
Visto sooamente un pezzo di partita ieri sera, aspetterò di vederla tutta tra oggi e domani per dare un giudizio migliore.
Cmq qualche cosa mi è saltata subito all'occhio:
1) troppa fretta di Smith nel fare l'azione, pochissima protezione dalla linea offensiva
2) poca chimica tra Smith e i ricevitori (guardate qualte volte è dovuto uscire dalla tasca o aspettare infiniti secondi prima di poter lanciare...e sbagliare)
3) difesa a tratti buona ma con delle amnesie imbarazzanti (soprattutto sui CB... i WR di Seattle non sono sti fenomeni, imho!!!)
Speriamo di imparare da questa batosta....e che Smith tiri fuori le palle!
Troppo brutti per essere veramente questi, specie dopo che nella prima parte eravamo padroni della gara (a Seattle si sentivano i boo) ma abbiamo sprecato troppo in red zone. Poi alla prima difficoltà non ci abbiamo più capito niente e in 10 minuti di gioco abbiamo preso i 28 punti che hanno spaccato la partita.
Se dobbiamo trovare una nota positiva è che peggio di così non possiamo giocare.
Same old niners!
Ne ho le palle piene. D'accordo in pieno con quanto avete scritto su Smith, OL e difesa, ma la cosa piu' imbarazzante e' che continuiamo ad avere una gestione della gara RI-DI-CO-LA: time out sprecati, errori di comuicazione, delay of game. Posso farmi una ragione del fatto che Smith e' brocco, che Crabtree sia troppo gasato e ci abbia messo poco impegno, che Clements faccia schifo, rendendo un fenomeno anche quel Mike Williams per cui Millen e' stato preso per i fondelli per anni, ma che non si riesca con continuita' a chiamare un gioco in tempi decenti e farlo arrivare alle orecchie del QB, questo non mi va proprio giu'!
E poi sono anche incazzato con Dahlia e le sue "sintesi"!
EDIT: dimenticavo: ci rifacciamo con la prossima contro NO nel MNF :0-2: :gazza:
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Tre ore passate a bestemmiare come uno scaricatore di porto. Smith non è capace, ricevitori inesistenti, OL di cartapesta, Gore un fantasma, la secondaria ridicola.
Mamma mia che schifo.
"You have nothing to be looking at the floor for! You didn't steal anything! You didn't do anything wrong! OK? We're going to get better! We're going to get there! You hold your head up!"
The growing tension between San Francisco 49ers players and the coaching staff bubbled to the surface in the team’s surprisingly lopsided loss at Seattle on Sunday. While coach Mike Singletary took quick action to call a team meeting Sunday night to get the coaches and players back on the same page, the reality is that Singletary is navigating some very choppy waters.
It’s the kind of problem that could spoil not only a season expected to yield a division title, but also Singletary’s career as a head coach.
On Sunday, the 49ers wasted three timeouts and were called for a delay-of-game penalty on three first-half possessions when they got inside the Seattle 10-yard line. By the end of those three possessions, the 49ers had only two field goals (though a touchdown was negated during one series following a booth review). Ultimately, that’s the definition of ineffective football, allowing Seattle to gain momentum on the way to a 31-6 victory.
After the game, quarterback Alex Smith pointed the finger at the coaching staff, saying the plays weren’t getting in fast enough. Smith was right and Singletary tried to cover that fact by claiming there were problems with the team’s headsets.
According to multiple sources familiar with the circumstances, the real problem has been more than a year in the making and became more significant following changes the 49ers made within the coaching staff this offseason.
In Singletary’s first full season last year, offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye, one of the more respected veteran coaches in the league, was calling plays from the coach’s box upstairs. Raye would call plays down to offensive assistant Jason Michael, who would then send the play into the quarterback. That system worked effectively even at times when Raye struggled to find exactly the right play or say it exactly the right way.
“It seems like Jimmy calls plays from memory a lot of the time and not exactly the way it’s written down,” said one of the aforementioned sources, adding that the plays often get garbled. “He knows the plays and he knows the right thing to call, but he’s fumbling through his papers and it’s like, ‘Hey, we need to get a play called.’ ”
Michael, who worked closely with Raye, was good at filling the gaps in communication. However, one of the problems created by the Raye-Michael relationship was that it began to alienate quarterback coach Mike Johnson(notes), whose involvement in building the game plan had diminished. In addition, some players began to resent Raye’s tendency to blame them if things went wrong.
As a result, several players went to Singletary this offseason to complain about Raye and the overall situation. Singletary’s solution was to change the mechanics of how the plays were sent in. He replaced Michael, who is still on staff, with Johnson in the play-calling process. On Sunday, that became a problem because Johnson couldn’t decipher what Raye was saying during tense moments when the Seattle crowd was making noise. Singletary was seen several times yelling at Johnson on the sideline when plays didn’t get relayed in a timely fashion.
The fear among those who know the situation is that this could put Raye, Johnson and Singletary at odds with each other. Worse, it could undermine the already tepid trust the players have in the coaching staff.
Singletary and Raye declined a request to talk to Yahoo! Sports directly about the situation, but the head coach addressed Sunday’s miscommunication during Monday’s media session: “We will take a hard look at it and we will have an answer for it. We will figure it out in the next few days exactly how we are going to do that and exactly how this is going to get better.
“Whether Jimmy comes on the field or however it is, we’re going to figure it out and nip it in the bud.”
Though Singletary said he was listening in on the headsets, the sources claim he isn’t an X’s and O’s guy and doesn’t know what a correct play call would be compared to an incorrect call. Surprisingly, that’s not completely unusual in the coaching profession, but it creates a problem for Singletary on who to blame for the problem and how to fix the issue.
It also furthers the credibility gap for the coaching staff with the players.
The fortunate part for the 49ers is that they return home this week where the home crowd will make it easier to communicate. The unfortunate part is they play New Orleans, which will have had three extra days to prepare for the game coming off the Thursday opener.
ma cos'è uno scherzo? mi sono rotto i coglioni di questi figuri, voglio qualcuno che conosco le X e le O. guardate chi è sulla sideline nella capitale. uno che sarebbe tornato volentieri dov'è cresciuto. invece siamo ancora impantanati con sta roba
Ci sono squadre che a certe temperature si squagliano, altre che lievitano. Classe, storia: Milan. "mr.kerouac [...] sa essere cattivo con pochissime parole". (Angyair)
mr.kerouac wrote:
The growing tension between San Francisco 49ers players and the coaching staff bubbled to the surface in the team’s surprisingly lopsided loss at Seattle on Sunday. While coach Mike Singletary took quick action to call a team meeting Sunday night to get the coaches and players back on the same page, the reality is that Singletary is navigating some very choppy waters.
It’s the kind of problem that could spoil not only a season expected to yield a division title, but also Singletary’s career as a head coach.
On Sunday, the 49ers wasted three timeouts and were called for a delay-of-game penalty on three first-half possessions when they got inside the Seattle 10-yard line. By the end of those three possessions, the 49ers had only two field goals (though a touchdown was negated during one series following a booth review). Ultimately, that’s the definition of ineffective football, allowing Seattle to gain momentum on the way to a 31-6 victory.
After the game, quarterback Alex Smith pointed the finger at the coaching staff, saying the plays weren’t getting in fast enough. Smith was right and Singletary tried to cover that fact by claiming there were problems with the team’s headsets.
According to multiple sources familiar with the circumstances, the real problem has been more than a year in the making and became more significant following changes the 49ers made within the coaching staff this offseason.
In Singletary’s first full season last year, offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye, one of the more respected veteran coaches in the league, was calling plays from the coach’s box upstairs. Raye would call plays down to offensive assistant Jason Michael, who would then send the play into the quarterback. That system worked effectively even at times when Raye struggled to find exactly the right play or say it exactly the right way.
“It seems like Jimmy calls plays from memory a lot of the time and not exactly the way it’s written down,” said one of the aforementioned sources, adding that the plays often get garbled. “He knows the plays and he knows the right thing to call, but he’s fumbling through his papers and it’s like, ‘Hey, we need to get a play called.’ ”
Michael, who worked closely with Raye, was good at filling the gaps in communication. However, one of the problems created by the Raye-Michael relationship was that it began to alienate quarterback coach Mike Johnson(notes), whose involvement in building the game plan had diminished. In addition, some players began to resent Raye’s tendency to blame them if things went wrong.
As a result, several players went to Singletary this offseason to complain about Raye and the overall situation. Singletary’s solution was to change the mechanics of how the plays were sent in. He replaced Michael, who is still on staff, with Johnson in the play-calling process. On Sunday, that became a problem because Johnson couldn’t decipher what Raye was saying during tense moments when the Seattle crowd was making noise. Singletary was seen several times yelling at Johnson on the sideline when plays didn’t get relayed in a timely fashion.
The fear among those who know the situation is that this could put Raye, Johnson and Singletary at odds with each other. Worse, it could undermine the already tepid trust the players have in the coaching staff.
Singletary and Raye declined a request to talk to Yahoo! Sports directly about the situation, but the head coach addressed Sunday’s miscommunication during Monday’s media session: “We will take a hard look at it and we will have an answer for it. We will figure it out in the next few days exactly how we are going to do that and exactly how this is going to get better.
“Whether Jimmy comes on the field or however it is, we’re going to figure it out and nip it in the bud.”
Though Singletary said he was listening in on the headsets, the sources claim he isn’t an X’s and O’s guy and doesn’t know what a correct play call would be compared to an incorrect call. Surprisingly, that’s not completely unusual in the coaching profession, but it creates a problem for Singletary on who to blame for the problem and how to fix the issue.
It also furthers the credibility gap for the coaching staff with the players.
The fortunate part for the 49ers is that they return home this week where the home crowd will make it easier to communicate. The unfortunate part is they play New Orleans, which will have had three extra days to prepare for the game coming off the Thursday opener.
ma cos'è uno scherzo? mi sono rotto i coglioni di questi figuri, voglio qualcuno che conosco le X e le O. guardate chi è sulla sideline nella capitale. uno che sarebbe tornato volentieri dov'è cresciuto. invece siamo ancora impantanati con sta roba
Però Singletary c'ha l'attitudine giusta, la cattiveria sportiva che è l'unica cosa che conta per tanti giornalisti...
Doesn't matter, I'll probably get hit by a car anyways.
mr.kerouac wrote:
The growing tension between San Francisco 49ers players and the coaching staff bubbled to the surface in the team’s surprisingly lopsided loss at Seattle on Sunday. While coach Mike Singletary took quick action to call a team meeting Sunday night to get the coaches and players back on the same page, the reality is that Singletary is navigating some very choppy waters.
It’s the kind of problem that could spoil not only a season expected to yield a division title, but also Singletary’s career as a head coach.
On Sunday, the 49ers wasted three timeouts and were called for a delay-of-game penalty on three first-half possessions when they got inside the Seattle 10-yard line. By the end of those three possessions, the 49ers had only two field goals (though a touchdown was negated during one series following a booth review). Ultimately, that’s the definition of ineffective football, allowing Seattle to gain momentum on the way to a 31-6 victory.
After the game, quarterback Alex Smith pointed the finger at the coaching staff, saying the plays weren’t getting in fast enough. Smith was right and Singletary tried to cover that fact by claiming there were problems with the team’s headsets.
According to multiple sources familiar with the circumstances, the real problem has been more than a year in the making and became more significant following changes the 49ers made within the coaching staff this offseason.
In Singletary’s first full season last year, offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye, one of the more respected veteran coaches in the league, was calling plays from the coach’s box upstairs. Raye would call plays down to offensive assistant Jason Michael, who would then send the play into the quarterback. That system worked effectively even at times when Raye struggled to find exactly the right play or say it exactly the right way.
“It seems like Jimmy calls plays from memory a lot of the time and not exactly the way it’s written down,” said one of the aforementioned sources, adding that the plays often get garbled. “He knows the plays and he knows the right thing to call, but he’s fumbling through his papers and it’s like, ‘Hey, we need to get a play called.’ ”
Michael, who worked closely with Raye, was good at filling the gaps in communication. However, one of the problems created by the Raye-Michael relationship was that it began to alienate quarterback coach Mike Johnson(notes), whose involvement in building the game plan had diminished. In addition, some players began to resent Raye’s tendency to blame them if things went wrong.
As a result, several players went to Singletary this offseason to complain about Raye and the overall situation. Singletary’s solution was to change the mechanics of how the plays were sent in. He replaced Michael, who is still on staff, with Johnson in the play-calling process. On Sunday, that became a problem because Johnson couldn’t decipher what Raye was saying during tense moments when the Seattle crowd was making noise. Singletary was seen several times yelling at Johnson on the sideline when plays didn’t get relayed in a timely fashion.
The fear among those who know the situation is that this could put Raye, Johnson and Singletary at odds with each other. Worse, it could undermine the already tepid trust the players have in the coaching staff.
Singletary and Raye declined a request to talk to Yahoo! Sports directly about the situation, but the head coach addressed Sunday’s miscommunication during Monday’s media session: “We will take a hard look at it and we will have an answer for it. We will figure it out in the next few days exactly how we are going to do that and exactly how this is going to get better.
“Whether Jimmy comes on the field or however it is, we’re going to figure it out and nip it in the bud.”
Though Singletary said he was listening in on the headsets, the sources claim he isn’t an X’s and O’s guy and doesn’t know what a correct play call would be compared to an incorrect call. Surprisingly, that’s not completely unusual in the coaching profession, but it creates a problem for Singletary on who to blame for the problem and how to fix the issue.
It also furthers the credibility gap for the coaching staff with the players.
The fortunate part for the 49ers is that they return home this week where the home crowd will make it easier to communicate. The unfortunate part is they play New Orleans, which will have had three extra days to prepare for the game coming off the Thursday opener.
ma cos'è uno scherzo? mi sono rotto i coglioni di questi figuri, voglio qualcuno che conosco le X e le O. guardate chi è sulla sideline nella capitale. uno che sarebbe tornato volentieri dov'è cresciuto. invece siamo ancora impantanati con sta roba
Se la situazione e' questa, siamo ancora la barzelletta della lega, anche pewggio di quando c'era Erickson: in quel caso il roster era veramente da schifo, ora invece i giocatori li avremmo anche, non dico per vincere il SB ma la division si!
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Visto che, kero docet, io sono quello ottimista e che un palo nel culo è un rimedio per la stitichezza, cerchiamo le note positive in questa brutta partita:
1) per fortuna che questa batosta è arrivata alla prima, così abbiamo tutto il tempo di cercare di reagire.
2) ....
3) ....
4) l'esperienza della chat nel blog è stata divertente.
5) Markee White è tifoso dei niners!
6) ....
7) ....
Questo è il massimo che sono riuscito a fare. :paper:
