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Pollack wrote: Altrimenti il mio progetto di andare alla conseco nei prossimi 3 anni (col favore di una laurea :gazza:) salta per qualche altro posto.

rodmanalbe82 wrote: INDIANAPOLIS (AP)—The Indiana Pacers have suspended center David Harrison for one game for conduct detrimental to the team.

The Pacers gave no reason for the suspension, but the announcement Friday comes a day after Harrison was involved in a confrontation late in a game against San Antonio. Harrison was called for a technical as he yelled at an official after being hit in the face by Spurs forward Matt Bonner.

Pacers coach Jim O’Brien pulled Harrison from the game, but he was later escorted to the locker room. The Pacers say Harrison also was fined and would sit out Saturday’s game at Cleveland.

Harrison was suspended for five games in January for violating the league’s anti-drug program.

Ciombe wrote: Fase di stallo a Indy... si credeva che le mele marce fossero i soli Jackson e Harrington e invece ecco esplodere nuovamente altri casi in Daniels, Harrison e Shawne Williams... e Tinsley continua a non rimanere un angioletto.

Peccato che l'ambiente sia esploso da 3/4 stagioni, con l'inizio della tegola Artest, il ritiro del leader Miller e l'incapacità di prenderne il posto da parte di O'Neal che oltre a questo è stato tartassato da infortuni a ripetizione.

In estate secondo c'è da tirare una linea netta, smantellare la squadra cercando fare una vera e propria pulizia di giocatori perchè in questo modo ti leghi le mani a 2/3/4 stagioni con il 40/45% di vittorie senza mai fare progressi.

Granger e Dunleavy le uniche certezze sulle quali ripartire. Anche se paradossalmente Dunleavy è dato in ogni sorta di rumors, a Indiana ha trovato la sua dimensione ottimale, giocando una grande pallacanestro.

Jakala wrote: Che ha fatto Williams? Mi sono perso qualcosa?

Diener mi sembra solo un backup scarso, secondo è sacrificabile per un play più giovane e futuribile, magari prendendo un West che dovrebbe essere in scadenza o qualcuno da Memphis.
Rush va bene che costa pochissimo, ma come tiratore da tre è alterno, piuttosto prenderei un Frahm che ha un tiro più affidabile ed è uno specialista che non rompe anche se fa tanta panchina.

Jakala wrote: Che ha fatto Williams? Mi sono perso qualcosa?

Frantz wrote: C'è poco da aggiungere. In poche righe hai centrato il concetto.

Dalle parole di Simon si capisce comunque la chiara intenzione di fare una volta per tutte una vera pulizia, aldilà del raggiungimento dei playoffs o meno.

Sinceramente anche Williams che consideravo intoccabile fino a poco tempo fa mi ha fatto arrabbiare per i due gravi accaduti. Dunleavy invece, aldilà degli stereotipi e dei pregiudizi che spesso sento, ha giocato alla grande.

Se dalla cessione di O'Neal e Tinsley arrivano buone scelte e giovani giocatori, dalla pulizia salverei questi:

Granger
Dunleavy
Foster
Diogu
Diener
Daniels
Rush
Graham
forse Murphy

Il resto è da ridisegnare...

ze_ginius wrote: "A murder suspect was arrested after leaving the home of Indiana Pacers forward Shawne Williams on Wednesday night, according to the Associated Press.

Gary Bohannon, 22, of Tennessee was being held without bond in Marion County Jail. Police arrested home around 6 p.m. after he left the house in a truck registered to Williams.
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Bird said he has counseled Williams “a hundred times” about associating with the right people. In September, Williams was arrested after a routine traffic stop in which police found marijuana and a stolen handgun in his car. Bohanon claimed possession of the marijuana. The Pacers suspended Williams for three games.(Indianapolis Star)"

Peccato che queste ripetute e spiacevoli situazioni capitino in un posto come l'Indiana, dove la pallacanestro è una vera religione. E peccato anche per il mio fanta...

So Herb Simon has spoken. And that's a good thing, a necessary thing, because even as a hands-off owner of the Pacers, he needed to get his hands on a once-proud franchise that is in deep crisis on the floor and off.

The question, though, remains: Will Simon tell team CEO and president Donnie Walsh and president Larry Bird that they absolutely, positively must clean house and begin the tough and oftentimes uncomfortable process of rebuilding this franchise?
Because that's what he must tell them, with no reservations. Blow it up. Start over. Bite the bullet, swallow hard and move this thing in an entirely new direction. (This is a recording. I started writing about this, what, three years ago?)
If Walsh and Bird are willing to spend this next summer cleaning house, then give them ample time to get the job done. Two years, three, whatever.
If Walsh and Bird are unwilling or unable to do the necessary dirty work, then send them along and bring in a new architect, somebody like Kiki Vandeweghe, who rescued the Denver Nuggets after years of abject futility.
Simon must make it clear. No more tinkering. No more working around the edges in the hope of winning 38 games and earning a bogus playoff spot in the Eastern Conference. The fans aren't buying what the Pacers are selling. Seven years after an NBA Finals run, the Pacers are dead last in the league in attendance. Imagine, here in Indiana, where the soul of basketball resides, where Conseco Fieldhouse is an absolute jewel of a facility, the Pacers can't give away their tickets.
It's time to start over.
Get rid of Jermaine O'Neal. He has been a solid citizen and an All-Star when healthy, but he's the one player who has semi-significant value on the open market.
Get rid of Jamaal Tinsley. He's always hurt and he's always in trouble, or at least trouble always seems to find him. As long as he is part of this franchise, fans will stay away, just on principle.
Get rid of David Harrison. Not at the end of the season, but now. This minute. If the Players Association wants to fight it, fine. But Harrison has blown his last chance. Understand, I like the guy and hope he gets his act together, but his presence gives Pacers fans another excuse for staying home.
Get rid of Marquis Daniels. Another guy who can't steer clear of trouble. The legal system may eventually determine that he's not guilty of any wrongdoing these past two years, but his continued presence will serve as a perpetual reminder to fans why they can't stand this team.
Get rid of Shawne Williams. I keep hearing he's a really good kid. I keep hearing that he's been reticent about turning his back on some of the neighborhood friends who helped him survive West Memphis. I understand that. But he got a public mulligan the first time he was found hanging around with the wrong folks. This is the second time. In the same season. With a guy who's involved in a murder case. If he hasn't gotten it by now, he never will.
Understand, there are building blocks here. Not great building blocks, mind you, but there are players here who have remained professional, played hard and represented the franchise with grace. There's Danny Granger. There's Mike Dunleavy. There's Jeff Foster. There's Stephen Graham. There's Travis Diener. There's Kareem Rush. There's even Troy Murphy, who's come around nicely the past month.
It's a start.
But only a start.
Now Simon, who is paying two team presidents and getting very little in return, has to decide who is best suited to do the dirty work of cleaning up this franchise.
Understandably, there's been a lot of screaming about Bird's job performance, and I would quickly agree that he has not covered himself in glory. He was the one who coveted Sarunas Jasikevicius, who flamed out. He was the one who wanted Williams in the first round, then moved up and took James White in the second, gave White a two-year guaranteed contract, then cut him before the season.
The problem, though, is it's hard to know which moves belong to Walsh and which ones belong to Bird -- and which ones belong to both. It's readily accepted that this is Bird's first full year of autonomy, but his voice was heard during his years as Walsh's apprentice, so he bears some responsibility for this mess.
In Bird's defense, there was no way he could move the injured O'Neal or the injured Tinsley before this trading deadline. Who wants a player who can't help them get over the hump this postseason? They had zero value. It made more sense to wait until the summer.
So now it's up to Simon, who, despite his vast wealth, is not in any business to lose money. If he's as smart about basketball as he is about malls, he will hear the voice of the public and act accordingly.
Tell Donnie and Larry it's time to start over.
Or say goodbye.

Pollack wrote: girano voci sull'addio di Donnie sulla pagina principale di playit.
non ho tempo di verificare se siano veritiere o solo rumors qualcuno sa dirmi di più?