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abbiamo dato la nostra 4 scelta + la 1 2008 a NE e abbiamo preso................
JOE STALEY!!!!!!
grandi!!!
:kwameacasaaaaa:
JOE STALEY!!!!!!
grandi!!!
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Dare una prima scelta mi fa' sempre effetto. Però il pensiero di non vedere più Harris....kings wrote: abbiamo dato la nostra 4 scelta + la 1 2008 a NE e abbiamo preso................
JOE STALEY!!!!!!
grandi!!!
:kwameacasaaaaa:
E comunque alla fine è giusto così, è il giocatore che ci serve, e ci serve ora, non l'anno prossimo.
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Io sono un po' perplesso perché dar via una prima scelta è un bell'azzardo, anche se chiaramente si spera che la scelta dell'anno prossimo sia abbastanza bassa. (:papa:
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Si lo so, però ora ci serviva assolutamente un OT che sostituisca Harris e che ci metta al riparo dalla salute cagionevole di Jennings, se avessimo aspettato è probabile che saremmo rimasti senza nessun tackle di reale valore.Jeremy wrote: Io sono un po' perplesso perché dar via una prima scelta è un bell'azzardo, anche se chiaramente si spera che la scelta dell'anno prossimo sia abbastanza bassa. (:papa:)
Speriamo che paghi.
Adesso abbiamo fatto anche una trade con i Colts lasciadogli il nostro secondo giro per....boh....ancora non l'ho capito. Il fatto che abbiamo tradato la scelta pur essendoci ancora disponibile Rice, Jarrett e Smith mi fà pensare che la trade per Jackson è vicina all'ufficialità.
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Se ho capito bene la trade con i Colts dovrebbe essere la nostra seconda di quest'anno per la loro quarta di quest'anno più.....la loro prima dell'anno prossimo! 
Vedi jeremy? Tutto sistemato. :paper:
Dal blog di Maiocco:
I underestimated the trade for the 49ers. They'll get the Colts' first-round pick next year and their fourth-round pick, No. 131 overall, this year in exchange for the No. 42 overall pick this year.
Vedi jeremy? Tutto sistemato. :paper:
Dal blog di Maiocco:
I underestimated the trade for the 49ers. They'll get the Colts' first-round pick next year and their fourth-round pick, No. 131 overall, this year in exchange for the No. 42 overall pick this year.
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Sì, è quello che ho pensato anche io; sembra che l'accordo con Seattle sia raggiunto ma manca ancora l'esito della visita medica.Angyair wrote: Adesso abbiamo fatto anche una trade con i Colts lasciadogli il nostro secondo giro per....boh....ancora non l'ho capito. Il fatto che abbiamo tradato la scelta pur essendoci ancora disponibile Rice, Jarrett e Smith mi fà pensare che la trade per Jackson è vicina all'ufficialità.
Quanto alla trade con Indy seconndo Maiocco dovremmo avere avuto la seconda dei Colts dell'anno prossimo; se così fosse, bilancerebbe abbastanza la perdita della prima con la trade precedente.
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L'ho letto ora, se è così Nolan e McCoso hanno fatto un capolavoro.Angyair wrote: Se ho capito bene la trade con i Colts dovrebbe essere la nostra seconda di quest'anno per la loro quarta di quest'anno più.....la loro prima dell'anno prossimo!
Vedi jeremy? Tutto sistemato. :paper:
Dal blog di Maiocco:
I underestimated the trade for the 49ers. They'll get the Colts' first-round pick next year and their fourth-round pick, No. 131 overall, this year in exchange for the No. 42 overall pick this year.
Edit - Tra l'altro abbiamo di nuovo quattro picks al quarto (anche se una è "opzionata" ai Seahawks) oltre alle due al terzo; a questo punto non escludo che si possa fare altre trade per ottenere un'altra seconda o un'altra terza.
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Ora non ci resta che sperare nella maledizione dei finalisti al Super Bowl.... :hehe:Jeremy wrote: L'ho letto ora, se è così Nolan e McCoso hanno fatto un capolavoro.![]()
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Due scelte al terzo giro rimanevano, e in attesa che sia ufficializzata la trade per D-Jax (che ha passato le visite mediche), i 49ers vanno su uno di quei WR che intrigava prima del draft: Jason Hill, prodotto di casa, tifoso dei 49ers (al Senior Bowl si presentò a Nolan dicendogli che sarebbe stato onorato di giocare nei 49ers), che ha il suo punto di forza nella velocità(4.36 sulle 40 yards) ed è molto abile negli ST (specie come gunner).
Con l'altra scelta si prende il DT/DE da Florida Ray McDonald: diversi problemi d'infortunio nel suo anno da junior (due interventi alle ginocchia) ma un ottimo anno da senior, i coach sono rimasti molto colpiti dalla sua etica e dalla sua voglia d'imparare durante il Senior Bowl. Se rimane sano potrà dare da subito un contributo se non essere già uno starter.
Da notare che 3 dei 4 giocatori scelti sono stati visionati ed allenati da Nolan e compagnia durante il Senior Bowl.
In definitiva......molto contento di questo primo giorno.
Con l'altra scelta si prende il DT/DE da Florida Ray McDonald: diversi problemi d'infortunio nel suo anno da junior (due interventi alle ginocchia) ma un ottimo anno da senior, i coach sono rimasti molto colpiti dalla sua etica e dalla sua voglia d'imparare durante il Senior Bowl. Se rimane sano potrà dare da subito un contributo se non essere già uno starter.
Da notare che 3 dei 4 giocatori scelti sono stati visionati ed allenati da Nolan e compagnia durante il Senior Bowl.
In definitiva......molto contento di questo primo giorno.
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Ed ecco un articolo di commento sul primo giorno di draft dei 49ers:
If you want to play for the 49ers, the Senior Bowl would be a good place to start. In what was officially the longest first day in the NFL draft in history, the 49ers made trades, dealt picks, and selected four players who they had become familiar with while coaching the Senior Bowl earlier this offseason. In so doing, Mike Nolan is hoping his club is more accurate through their selection process then other teams as he, and his staff are already familiar with the players they are drafting. Of course this type of anchoring also comes with the risk of missing out on a better talent.
In identifying Patrick Willis, Joe Staley, Jason Hill, and Ray McDonald, Nolan also took value from his assistant coaches. Each of whom was identified for their character as well as their play. As in the past few drafts, each player posses a combination of attributes of: quick learner, strong personality, leadership, overcame adversity, and extreme confidence. These traits combined with their physical attributes lead to their selections.
Patrick Willis will immediately compete for an inside linebacker position. Brandon Moore is expected to occupy one of those slots, and Willis will have to beat out incumbent Derek Smith who is coming off an injury plagued season. Willis is a tackling machine, but also has the desire to get to the quarterback. The 49ers will likely make good use of him paired with Manny Lawson as they both posses great speed, especially for men their size. It should allow the defensive staff to be a little more creative in the game planning for next season. Willis has the ability to be an every down player, but will have to improve some of the technical aspects of his game. His versatility is something the 49ers covet in their defensive players, and should again make for more creative game planning.
Joe Staley was selected at the bottom of the first round after the 49ers sent the Patriots their #110 this year, and first round pick in 2008 to the Patriots. The team later recouped most of this status by trading their second round pick, #42 overall to the Colts in exchange for the Colts 1st round pick in 2008 and fourth round #126 overall in this years draft. Staley is capable of playing both tackle positions but will likely see most of his initial action on the right side. With Jonas Jennings still recovering from injury Staley will likely see quite a bit of action early in mini camp. Drafted mainly for the future, Staley will provide depth on the offensive line, and gives the 49ers some flexibility to make some trades with others at the position.
Jason Hill did not play for the 49ers coaching staff at the Senior Bowl but still managed to make an impression during game preparations. Hill is a good value pick in the third round. He posted a sub 4.4, 40 time at the combine, but many scouting reports suggest his speed on the field is not that quick – which may hinder his ability to go deep. Hill of course contends that those allegations are not true. Although Hill lacks the size and strength of some of the other receivers in this year’s draft, he does two things really welll which should serve him well in the NFL. He has good hands, and uses his body effectively to shield defenders from the ball. Hill could make a play for a top three spot in the receivers, and will certainly push the competition at the spot. This selection appears to have significantly more value than the selection of receiver Brandon Williams did last year.
The 49ers closed day one with the selection of defensive end Ray McDonald. There are a few things I like about “The Golden Arches” mainly; his frame should be able to add more bulk, his quickness, and his reaction time are all very good. He tends to be around the football, and is a very versatile player. There are a few things that worry me about him too though, such as: he lacks technical moves and may be more of a speed rusher, he has a rough injury history (two knee surgeries), and initial reports suggest his knees may require further work. This pick is one of those “boom or bust” picks but it booms it will fill a gaping hole on the 49ers defensive line. Ray’s versatility will help him play end in the 3-4.
The fourth round will have an interesting caveat to it, as the 49ers are in talks with the Seahawks to acquire receiver Darrell Jackson for a fourth round pick. Jackson is in Santa Clara and passed his physical with the team today. His injury history does raise red flags, but he also has the potential to take the 49ers receiving core to the next level. Jackson has big play ability, and can be a real threat in the redzone, something the team struggled with last season.
As the 49ers look forward to Day 2, there are a several players the team would still likely to get a hold of. With 6 picks remaining in the draft, Nolan and staff will try and improve the competition across the roster to improve the overall talent level on the roster. The team could still use defensive help in the defensive backfield, and more depth at almost every other position. The team will not be able to trade any of its compensatory selections.
If you want to play for the 49ers, the Senior Bowl would be a good place to start. In what was officially the longest first day in the NFL draft in history, the 49ers made trades, dealt picks, and selected four players who they had become familiar with while coaching the Senior Bowl earlier this offseason. In so doing, Mike Nolan is hoping his club is more accurate through their selection process then other teams as he, and his staff are already familiar with the players they are drafting. Of course this type of anchoring also comes with the risk of missing out on a better talent.
In identifying Patrick Willis, Joe Staley, Jason Hill, and Ray McDonald, Nolan also took value from his assistant coaches. Each of whom was identified for their character as well as their play. As in the past few drafts, each player posses a combination of attributes of: quick learner, strong personality, leadership, overcame adversity, and extreme confidence. These traits combined with their physical attributes lead to their selections.
Patrick Willis will immediately compete for an inside linebacker position. Brandon Moore is expected to occupy one of those slots, and Willis will have to beat out incumbent Derek Smith who is coming off an injury plagued season. Willis is a tackling machine, but also has the desire to get to the quarterback. The 49ers will likely make good use of him paired with Manny Lawson as they both posses great speed, especially for men their size. It should allow the defensive staff to be a little more creative in the game planning for next season. Willis has the ability to be an every down player, but will have to improve some of the technical aspects of his game. His versatility is something the 49ers covet in their defensive players, and should again make for more creative game planning.
Joe Staley was selected at the bottom of the first round after the 49ers sent the Patriots their #110 this year, and first round pick in 2008 to the Patriots. The team later recouped most of this status by trading their second round pick, #42 overall to the Colts in exchange for the Colts 1st round pick in 2008 and fourth round #126 overall in this years draft. Staley is capable of playing both tackle positions but will likely see most of his initial action on the right side. With Jonas Jennings still recovering from injury Staley will likely see quite a bit of action early in mini camp. Drafted mainly for the future, Staley will provide depth on the offensive line, and gives the 49ers some flexibility to make some trades with others at the position.
Jason Hill did not play for the 49ers coaching staff at the Senior Bowl but still managed to make an impression during game preparations. Hill is a good value pick in the third round. He posted a sub 4.4, 40 time at the combine, but many scouting reports suggest his speed on the field is not that quick – which may hinder his ability to go deep. Hill of course contends that those allegations are not true. Although Hill lacks the size and strength of some of the other receivers in this year’s draft, he does two things really welll which should serve him well in the NFL. He has good hands, and uses his body effectively to shield defenders from the ball. Hill could make a play for a top three spot in the receivers, and will certainly push the competition at the spot. This selection appears to have significantly more value than the selection of receiver Brandon Williams did last year.
The 49ers closed day one with the selection of defensive end Ray McDonald. There are a few things I like about “The Golden Arches” mainly; his frame should be able to add more bulk, his quickness, and his reaction time are all very good. He tends to be around the football, and is a very versatile player. There are a few things that worry me about him too though, such as: he lacks technical moves and may be more of a speed rusher, he has a rough injury history (two knee surgeries), and initial reports suggest his knees may require further work. This pick is one of those “boom or bust” picks but it booms it will fill a gaping hole on the 49ers defensive line. Ray’s versatility will help him play end in the 3-4.
The fourth round will have an interesting caveat to it, as the 49ers are in talks with the Seahawks to acquire receiver Darrell Jackson for a fourth round pick. Jackson is in Santa Clara and passed his physical with the team today. His injury history does raise red flags, but he also has the potential to take the 49ers receiving core to the next level. Jackson has big play ability, and can be a real threat in the redzone, something the team struggled with last season.
As the 49ers look forward to Day 2, there are a several players the team would still likely to get a hold of. With 6 picks remaining in the draft, Nolan and staff will try and improve the competition across the roster to improve the overall talent level on the roster. The team could still use defensive help in the defensive backfield, and more depth at almost every other position. The team will not be able to trade any of its compensatory selections.
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vorrei complimentarmi con niners per l'ottimo DAY 1 del draft...willis, staley e hill erano tutti considerati in ottica pittsburgh 

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Yes, sono molto contento anche io; abbiamo coperto i nostri principali needs ed in più c'è la ciliegina dell'arrivo di Jackson. Per me potremmo anche fermarci qui ma abbiamo altri cinque picks che useremo per dare profondità a qualche posizione, sperando magari di pescare il nuovo Colston.Angyair wrote:
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Mi duole fare i complimenti ai Niners, hanno fatto un ottimo draft: willis, staley e jason hill, sono ottime, ma davvero ottime chiamate, e adesso se prendono pure djax per due noccioline...

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Prima cosa: è ufficiale l'arrivo di D-Jax:
The 49ers acquired wide receiver DARRELL JACKSON from the Seahawks in a trade for the No. 124 overall pick.
Le motivazioni dell'addio di Jackson ai Seahwks sembra derivare da dissidi con la dirigenza a seguito dell'infortunio dell'anno scorso:
The Seahawks gave up Darrell Jackson, a player who has been their best receiver, to the division-rival 49ers for a fourth-round draft pick. Why would the Seahawks trade him ... and trade him to the 49ers, of all teams?
According to Mike Sando, who does a bang-up job covering the Seahawks for the Tacoma News Tribune, the parting stems from a contract dispute and the handling of a 2005 knee injury.
"Jackson alleged that former Seahawks president Bob Whitsitt failed to deliver on unspecified contract promises," Sando wrote. "Whitsitt denied the charge, but Jackson pressed Whitsitt's successor, Tim Ruskell, for concessions. Ruskell resisted. The dispute escalated, with the Seahawks and Jackson's agents exchanging a series of blunt letters.
"The relationship soured further after Jackson suffered a knee injury during an October 2005 game at Washington. He questioned the team's handling of the injury, including a diagnosis inconsistent with a second opinion Jackson received. Jackson underwent surgery and missed nine games. He has skipped voluntary portions of the team's minicamps."
Jackson missed three games last season with a turf-toe injury. He passed a 49ers team physical on Saturday.
Con la prima delle tre scelte che ci rimangono al quarto giro prendiamo l'OLB che serviva per dare profondità al roster: da Nebraska Jay Moore.
E ora il CB. :paper:
Questa notizia su McDonald invece non so se deve farmi solo ridere o preoccupare :D :
McDonald planned to work out at the combine, but he had a case of bronchitis, along with salmonella that he reportedly got from eating Peter Pan peanut butter. He lost 12 pounds, weighing in at 276 at the combine. On Saturday, he said he currently weighs 285.
The 49ers acquired wide receiver DARRELL JACKSON from the Seahawks in a trade for the No. 124 overall pick.
Le motivazioni dell'addio di Jackson ai Seahwks sembra derivare da dissidi con la dirigenza a seguito dell'infortunio dell'anno scorso:
The Seahawks gave up Darrell Jackson, a player who has been their best receiver, to the division-rival 49ers for a fourth-round draft pick. Why would the Seahawks trade him ... and trade him to the 49ers, of all teams?
According to Mike Sando, who does a bang-up job covering the Seahawks for the Tacoma News Tribune, the parting stems from a contract dispute and the handling of a 2005 knee injury.
"Jackson alleged that former Seahawks president Bob Whitsitt failed to deliver on unspecified contract promises," Sando wrote. "Whitsitt denied the charge, but Jackson pressed Whitsitt's successor, Tim Ruskell, for concessions. Ruskell resisted. The dispute escalated, with the Seahawks and Jackson's agents exchanging a series of blunt letters.
"The relationship soured further after Jackson suffered a knee injury during an October 2005 game at Washington. He questioned the team's handling of the injury, including a diagnosis inconsistent with a second opinion Jackson received. Jackson underwent surgery and missed nine games. He has skipped voluntary portions of the team's minicamps."
Jackson missed three games last season with a turf-toe injury. He passed a 49ers team physical on Saturday.
Con la prima delle tre scelte che ci rimangono al quarto giro prendiamo l'OLB che serviva per dare profondità al roster: da Nebraska Jay Moore.
E ora il CB. :paper:
Questa notizia su McDonald invece non so se deve farmi solo ridere o preoccupare :D :
McDonald planned to work out at the combine, but he had a case of bronchitis, along with salmonella that he reportedly got from eating Peter Pan peanut butter. He lost 12 pounds, weighing in at 276 at the combine. On Saturday, he said he currently weighs 285.
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Con il secondo quarto giro in nostro possesso prendiamo il figlio dell'oro: Dashon Goldson, safety non velocissima ma dall'ottimo fisico(6-2 per 205) che ha giocato anche CB. Serve a dare profondità al reparto dei defensive back. Primo giocatore scelto che non ha partecipato al Senior Bowl (:D) e che aveva visto cadere le proprie credenzialità dopo un deludente combine che seguiva un'annata al di sotto delle aspettative anche a causa di un fastidioso infortunio all'anca.
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