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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia!
Sempre più probabile una soluzione interna anche perché a Zampese può anche non essere data la possibilità di essere "intervistato" da altre squadre per un ruolo di assistant coach:
Mike Nolan spoke with Norv Turner this morning and received the word straight from his former offensive coordinator.
Turner has been hired as the Chargers' head coach.
"This is a great opportunity for Norv," Nolan said in a statement. "I said last year when we went through a similar situation that I view it as an opportunity to get better. I have confidence in the structure of our organization and our ability to attract and recruit the best for our team."
Nolan turns his attention to hiring a new offensive coordinator. Nolan spoke to several of the 49ers' offensive players, including Alex Smith, Trent Dilfer and Frank Gore, to get their input.
Nolan has said that he plans to keep the offense that Turner installed. The remainder of the 49ers' coaching staff is well-versed in the offense, including Jerry Sullivan, Jim Hostler, George Warhop, Pete Hoener and Bishop Harris.
At this point in the offseason, there is a good chance that Nolan will hire the new coordinator from his own staff, though Nolan has said he would also look outside the organization for candidates. Sullivan is the only current 49ers coach who has been an offensive coordinator in the leauge (2003 with Cardinals).
When asked last month whether he'd simply promote Sullivan if Turner were to leave, Nolan said, "He (Sullivan) potentially could, but I don't know I'd do that. - We'll wait and see, I'd like to complement whatever's left. I like the role everybody is in right now."
But now there might be fewer options for Nolan and the 49ers.
Bengals coach Marvin Lewis, for instance, granted permission for QB coach Ken Zampese to interview with the Panthers and Dolphins earlier this offseason. But at this late stage, there is no guarantee that teams will allow assistants the opportunity to interview for the 49ers' offensive coordinator position.
Mike Nolan spoke with Norv Turner this morning and received the word straight from his former offensive coordinator.
Turner has been hired as the Chargers' head coach.
"This is a great opportunity for Norv," Nolan said in a statement. "I said last year when we went through a similar situation that I view it as an opportunity to get better. I have confidence in the structure of our organization and our ability to attract and recruit the best for our team."
Nolan turns his attention to hiring a new offensive coordinator. Nolan spoke to several of the 49ers' offensive players, including Alex Smith, Trent Dilfer and Frank Gore, to get their input.
Nolan has said that he plans to keep the offense that Turner installed. The remainder of the 49ers' coaching staff is well-versed in the offense, including Jerry Sullivan, Jim Hostler, George Warhop, Pete Hoener and Bishop Harris.
At this point in the offseason, there is a good chance that Nolan will hire the new coordinator from his own staff, though Nolan has said he would also look outside the organization for candidates. Sullivan is the only current 49ers coach who has been an offensive coordinator in the leauge (2003 with Cardinals).
When asked last month whether he'd simply promote Sullivan if Turner were to leave, Nolan said, "He (Sullivan) potentially could, but I don't know I'd do that. - We'll wait and see, I'd like to complement whatever's left. I like the role everybody is in right now."
But now there might be fewer options for Nolan and the 49ers.
Bengals coach Marvin Lewis, for instance, granted permission for QB coach Ken Zampese to interview with the Panthers and Dolphins earlier this offseason. But at this late stage, there is no guarantee that teams will allow assistants the opportunity to interview for the 49ers' offensive coordinator position.
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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia!
Ok, ma quando ha fatto quello dichiarazioni non immaginava certo il terremoto che stava per accadere a San Diego e non mi sento certo di biasimarlo per aver accettato un posto da HC su una panchina prestigiosa.klawde wrote: in realtà aveva detto Bay Area e cmq il contratto gli era stato rinnovato non più di una settimana fa spendendo parole di apprezzamento per tutti e per la possibilità di continuare il lavoro iniziato con Smith e soci.
Per carità io sono il primo che capisce che è comunque un lavoro ed un posto da head coach non si trova tutti i giorni però avrei preferito non leggere tutti queste sue dichiarazioni.
Comunque sia, la botta per noi è notevole però ormai è inutile pensare a quello che è stato, bisogna rimboccarsi le maniche, trovare in fretta un nuovo OC e mettersi subito al lavoro in vista della prossima stagione. Turner è un ottimo OC ma non penso sia l'unico in grado di gudare il nostro attacco e di far crescere bene Alex Smith.
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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia!
Boh, io questa storia non l'ho ancora digerita. Non incolpo Turner di aver accettato il posto. Lo incolpo di aver preso in giro tifosi e squadra visto che da come si è comportato Nolan e dalle dichiarazioni passate mi sembra proprio che le rassicurazioni di Norv sul fatto che sarebbe rimasto almeno 3 anni siano contate molto nella sua scelta un anno fa.Jeremy wrote: Ok, ma quando ha fatto quello dichiarazioni non immaginava certo il terremoto che stava per accadere a San Diego e non mi sento certo di biasimarlo per aver accettato un posto da HC su una panchina prestigiosa.
Tra l'altro ho appena letto che Turner ha detto che vuole continuità nel suo coaching staff a San Diego!
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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia.....di un OC! :turnercornuto:
Sfuma l'ipotesi Zampese (link); a questo punto credo che sia scontata la promozione di Sullivan.
Su qualche forum si è fatto il nome di Dennis Green, non mi dispiacerebbe nel caso si decidesse per la soluzione esterna. (così magari riusciamo a battere i Cardinals...)
Su qualche forum si è fatto il nome di Dennis Green, non mi dispiacerebbe nel caso si decidesse per la soluzione esterna. (così magari riusciamo a battere i Cardinals...)
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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia.....di un OC! :turnercornuto:
dopo il buco nell'acqua con l'ipotesi Campese restano in lizza secondo NinerCapHell : Steve Mariucci, Jim Fassel e come detto da Jeremy il nostro WR Coach Sullivan.
Non so se l ha detto qualcuno ma è il 5 OC che cambiamo in 5 anni!
ah ed ecco la foto di :turnercornuto:

Non so se l ha detto qualcuno ma è il 5 OC che cambiamo in 5 anni!
ah ed ecco la foto di :turnercornuto:

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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia.....di un OC! :turnercornuto:
Ma Mariucci è ancora sotto contratto con i Lions? Nel caso gli dovremmo dare qualche scelta compensatoria?kings wrote: dopo il buco nell'acqua con l'ipotesi Campese restano in lizza secondo NinerCapHell : Steve Mariucci, Jim Fassel e come detto da Jeremy il nostro WR Coach Sullivan.
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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia.....di un OC! :turnercornuto:
Non credo, anche perché avrebbero il vantaggio di non dover più pagare un HC a vuoto.Angyair wrote: Ma Mariucci è ancora sotto contratto con i Lions? Nel caso gli dovremmo dare qualche scelta compensatoria?
Forse sarò un po' impopolare, ma a me l'ipotesi Mariucci, che però reputo alquanto improbabile, intriga parecchio; per lui vale un po' il discorso di Turner, inadueguato come HC ma ottimo OC, senza dimenticare che quello che Turner ha fatto con Aikman (e stava iniziando a fare con Alex Smith), Mariucci lo ha fatto con un certo Brett Favre.
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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia.....di un OC! :turnercornuto:
bè dai non lo ritengo proprio inadeguato come HC... nella sua esperienza a frisco non mi sembra abbia fatto male. certamente meglio di quello che ha fatto turner nelle esperienze precedentiJeremy wrote: Non credo, anche perché avrebbero il vantaggio di non dover più pagare un HC a vuoto.
Forse sarò un po' impopolare, ma a me l'ipotesi Mariucci, che però reputo alquanto improbabile, intriga parecchio; per lui vale un po' il discorso di Turner, inadueguato come HC ma ottimo OC, senza dimenticare che quello che Turner ha fatto con Aikman (e stava iniziando a fare con Alex Smith), Mariucci lo ha fatto con un certo Brett Favre.
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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia.....di un OC! :turnercornuto:
Secondo Matt Maiocco, potrebbe essere l'allenatore dei TE ad essere promosso OC:
There are those who have wondered if tight ends coach Pete Hoener even has an office at the 49ers' facility.
OK, perhaps that a slight exaggeration, but in his two seasons with the 49ers, Hoener was seen spending a lot of time exchanging ideas in the offensive coordinator's office - first with Mike McCarthy, then with Norv Turner.
The 49ers have an opening to fill at offensive coordinator after Turner's departure this week to be head coach of the Chargers, and Hoener is a solid candidate to fill that position.
After all, Hoener, 52, has 15 years of experience as offensive coordinator at Texas A&M (2000), Iowa State ('98-99), TCU ('91-'97), Purdue ('89-'91) and Illinois ('86-'88). He coached offensive line with the Bears and Cardinals in '03 and '04 after spending two years as Cardinals tight ends coach.
Nobody else on the 49ers' staff even comes close to Hoener's experience as a play-caller.
Receivers coach Jerry Sullivan, widely considered the leading candidate to become the 49ers' offensive coordinator, spent one season as Cardinals offensive coordinator in 2003. That was the only season since 1971 that Sullivan did not coach wide receivers.
Coach Mike Nolan views Sullivan as such a valuable asset coaching receivers that he might be reluctant to promote him to offensive coordinator.
There are those who have wondered if tight ends coach Pete Hoener even has an office at the 49ers' facility.
OK, perhaps that a slight exaggeration, but in his two seasons with the 49ers, Hoener was seen spending a lot of time exchanging ideas in the offensive coordinator's office - first with Mike McCarthy, then with Norv Turner.
The 49ers have an opening to fill at offensive coordinator after Turner's departure this week to be head coach of the Chargers, and Hoener is a solid candidate to fill that position.
After all, Hoener, 52, has 15 years of experience as offensive coordinator at Texas A&M (2000), Iowa State ('98-99), TCU ('91-'97), Purdue ('89-'91) and Illinois ('86-'88). He coached offensive line with the Bears and Cardinals in '03 and '04 after spending two years as Cardinals tight ends coach.
Nobody else on the 49ers' staff even comes close to Hoener's experience as a play-caller.
Receivers coach Jerry Sullivan, widely considered the leading candidate to become the 49ers' offensive coordinator, spent one season as Cardinals offensive coordinator in 2003. That was the only season since 1971 that Sullivan did not coach wide receivers.
Coach Mike Nolan views Sullivan as such a valuable asset coaching receivers that he might be reluctant to promote him to offensive coordinator.
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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia.....di un OC! :turnercornuto:
Considerazioni di un tifoso su Sullivan:
With that one guy (I’ll never say his name again) leaving for San Diego and the Bengals denying permission for the 49ers to speak with Ken Zampese. That leaves the 49ers with little options this late in the game. With the scouting combine one day away and free agency set to begin in eight, the hands on favorite to replace what’s his name is current wide receivers coach Jerry Sullivan. Now the question around Ninerland is, is Sullivan capable of continuing where that other guy left off.
Sullivan has been around offenses in the NFL for 15 years and has coached his fair share of Pro-Bowl receivers. Names such as David Boston, Anthony Miller, Herman Moore, and Anquan Boldin. However, during those 15 years he has only been an OC once, that was back in 2003 when he was a member of the Arizona Cardinals. I know, when you hear the Cardinals you immediately laugh your ass off, at least I do and looking at the statistics from that 2003 campaign it doesn’t make it any easier. The Cardinals offense under Sully was ranked near the bottom in evey category, but you have to take into consideration the offense consisted of Jeff Blake, Marcell Shipp/Emmitt Smith, Anquan Boldin (ROY), and some other average receivers.
I guess what I’m trying to say is why not Sullivan. He’s familiar with the offense, his play calling is along the same lines as that other guy, and if Sullivan does do well it’s not like he’ll leave to become a head coach. At least that is what would most likely happen if someone like Zampese were to take over and at this time the team needs consistency more than ever.
In reality is it really that hard to draw up plays where Smith hands off to Gore?
With that one guy (I’ll never say his name again) leaving for San Diego and the Bengals denying permission for the 49ers to speak with Ken Zampese. That leaves the 49ers with little options this late in the game. With the scouting combine one day away and free agency set to begin in eight, the hands on favorite to replace what’s his name is current wide receivers coach Jerry Sullivan. Now the question around Ninerland is, is Sullivan capable of continuing where that other guy left off.
Sullivan has been around offenses in the NFL for 15 years and has coached his fair share of Pro-Bowl receivers. Names such as David Boston, Anthony Miller, Herman Moore, and Anquan Boldin. However, during those 15 years he has only been an OC once, that was back in 2003 when he was a member of the Arizona Cardinals. I know, when you hear the Cardinals you immediately laugh your ass off, at least I do and looking at the statistics from that 2003 campaign it doesn’t make it any easier. The Cardinals offense under Sully was ranked near the bottom in evey category, but you have to take into consideration the offense consisted of Jeff Blake, Marcell Shipp/Emmitt Smith, Anquan Boldin (ROY), and some other average receivers.
I guess what I’m trying to say is why not Sullivan. He’s familiar with the offense, his play calling is along the same lines as that other guy, and if Sullivan does do well it’s not like he’ll leave to become a head coach. At least that is what would most likely happen if someone like Zampese were to take over and at this time the team needs consistency more than ever.
In reality is it really that hard to draw up plays where Smith hands off to Gore?
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Anche a me l'ipotesi Mariucci intriga parecchio, ma come ho già detto in precedenza dubito che ritorni da OC in una squadra dove è gia stato HC!Jeremy wrote: Non credo, anche perché avrebbero il vantaggio di non dover più pagare un HC a vuoto.
Forse sarò un po' impopolare, ma a me l'ipotesi Mariucci, che però reputo alquanto improbabile, intriga parecchio; per lui vale un po' il discorso di Turner, inadueguato come HC ma ottimo OC, senza dimenticare che quello che Turner ha fatto con Aikman (e stava iniziando a fare con Alex Smith), Mariucci lo ha fatto con un certo Brett Favre.
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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia.....di un OC! :turnercornuto:
senza contare che Mariucci predilige una WCO mentre Nolan vuole mantere la Coryell Offense.vestanik wrote: Anche a me l'ipotesi Mariucci intriga parecchio, ma come ho già detto in precedenza dubito che ritorni da OC in una squadra dove è gia stato HC!
La cosa poi potrebbe essere deleteria anche all'interno del coaching staff: due galli nello stesso pollaio non vanno d'accordo!

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Quest'anno i 49ers hanno soldi da spendere sul mercato:
49ers look to upgrade
San Francisco mismanaged the salary cap in the 1990s. But every team is envious of the 49ers this year because they will start free agency more than $40 million
under the $109 million salary cap and have 10 draft picks.
San Francisco is expected to make a push for Buffalo cornerback Nate Clements
and Baltimore linebacker Adalius Thomas.
"We'll add good players during the middle, beginning and end of free agency," coach Mike Nolan said. "There are certainly players you would like to get done early but others choose to wait."
49ers look to upgrade
San Francisco mismanaged the salary cap in the 1990s. But every team is envious of the 49ers this year because they will start free agency more than $40 million
San Francisco is expected to make a push for Buffalo cornerback Nate Clements
"We'll add good players during the middle, beginning and end of free agency," coach Mike Nolan said. "There are certainly players you would like to get done early but others choose to wait."



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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia.....di un OC! :turnercornuto:
Credo che Thomas sia il nostro obiettivo principale nel mercato FA; Clements vuole un contratto allucinante (tipo 18 milioni di signing bonus) a quelle cifre lo lascio volentieri ai Radskins o a chi per loro, preferisco prenderlo al draft un CB. Altro obiettivo è Stallworth ma anche lì dipende dal prezzo e non è manchino i prospetti tra i WR.
In settimana dovrebbe essere annunciato il nome del nuovo OC; sono calate le quotazioni di Sullivan, i favoriti sembrano essere Jim Hostler, allenatore dei QB e Pete Hoener, coach dei TE. Dovrebbe essere intervistato per la posizione anche un non precisato coach proveniente dai college.
In settimana dovrebbe essere annunciato il nome del nuovo OC; sono calate le quotazioni di Sullivan, i favoriti sembrano essere Jim Hostler, allenatore dei QB e Pete Hoener, coach dei TE. Dovrebbe essere intervistato per la posizione anche un non precisato coach proveniente dai college.
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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia (2007) - A caccia.....di un OC! :turnercornuto:
Ho appena letto di voci che riporterebbero un interesse anche per safety dei Seahwks Ken Hamlin, per il LB dei Patriots Banta-Cain e per il versatile OL dei Bengals Eric Steinbach che si candida come milgior lineman del free agency.Jeremy wrote: Credo che Thomas sia il nostro obiettivo principale nel mercato FA; Clements vuole un contratto allucinante (tipo 18 milioni di signing bonus) a quelle cifre lo lascio volentieri ai Radskins o a chi per loro, preferisco prenderlo al draft un CB. Altro obiettivo è Stallworth ma anche lì dipende dal prezzo e non è manchino i prospetti tra i WR.
