Re: NFL Draft - La settimana della combine.

[all3n]

Cason in teoria è l'ultimo dei Top 5, perchè c'è anche Jenkins di South Florida, quindi con McKelvin e quest'ultimo ipoteticamente andati, avrebbero la precedenza Rodgers-Cromartie e Talib...anche se io continuo a credere che i Bills abbiano un bisogno impellente di mettere centimetri nel reparto WR...e calcolando che Sweed ormai è senza dubbio il miglior WR del draft, secondo me la prima opzione di Buffalo rimane lui, a meno di trade down ovviamente...

Rimanendo in tema di WR, qualcuno sa com'è possibile che nel draft 2003 (mi pare), TJ Houshmandzadeh "rotolò" fino al 6o giro? Infortunio oppure aveva ciccato pure lui le combine e gli scouting...perchè questo la direbbe lunga sulla valenza di certi scout NFL...

Mi pare che fu addirittura un settimo giro, c'è da dire che giocò solo una stagione da titolare a OSU e non ebbe cifre particolarmente strabilianti...

[The Answer Palermitano]

Pare che Malcom Kelly abbia fatto un workout pietoso al pro day di OU. Ha corso due volte le 40 con 4.68 e 4.75, e pare sia andato piuttosto male anche in altre prove fisiche (mentre ha fatto il suo dovere nei positional drills).

Per di piu', ha pensato bene di dar la colpa alla sua (quasi ex) universita', colpevole a suo dire di avegli cambiato la sede del workout all'ultimo momento - passando da un da terreno in erba ad astroturf. 

A questo punto e' a rischio la sua permanenza al primo giro, sia per i numeri, sia per l'atteggiamento certamente poco umile (se hai corso piano hai corso piano, e BTW l'astroturf non dovrebbe essere un terreno "veloce"?)

Credo che la debacle di Kelly sia imputabile ai problemi fisici che circolano intorno a lui. Però come è normale che sia, un giocatore prima del draft tende a giustificarsi dando la colpa al terreno, e non dicendo "è vero sono infortunato" cosa che farebbe calare le sue quotazioni.
Io credo che Kelly comunque sia un gran WR. Ha un fisico importante, e di giocatori con quel fisico in NFL c'è bisogno.
Per me non uscirà fuori dal 1° round, mia personale opinione..

[multiple]

Dedicata ad assioma (da Football Outsiders):



1-15-15 Detroit Lions — Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy

My conversation with Matt Millen:

B: “Wow Matt, this is a dream scenario for us. We had one of the worst secondaries in football last year and the top two cornerbacks are still on the board!”
M: [playing with G.I. Joe’s] “No, Rusty. _I’m_ the manliest man in our squadron!”
B: “Um, Matt, it’s our turn to pick.”
M: “What?” [glances back at G.I. Joes and makes squashing noises]
B: “Matt, it’s our turn to pick in the NFL Draft.”
M: “Oh! OK! We pick Darren McFadden.” [points to picture of Darren McFadden on the cover of The Sporting News] “Our scouts said he’s the best player out there.” [goes back to G.I. Joes] “Just like our scouts saw Charlie hanging out in the ditches over by the popcorn machine!”
B: [grabs Matt’s arm and sits him back down] “Matt, we can’t pick Darren McFadden. We won too many games to be able to pick whoever we want. He’s already been selected by the Jets.”
M: “We’ll send fighter je-”
B: [looks at Matt sternly]
M: “…OK. Let’s trade Roy Williams for Darren McDonald’s.”
B: “Matt, it’s McFadden, and we can’t trade Roy Williams for McFadden. He’s our best player and, besides, the Jets don’t want to deal McFadden.”
M: [is across the room shoving G.I. Joe’s into the microwave, screaming] “Go! Go! Go Rusty, go!”
B: “NOT AGAIN MATT!” [unplugs microwave] “Last time you did that, this place smelled like rubber for weeks.”
M: [obliviously shoves army men into microwave and hits “go” button and jumps around gleefully yelling] “CHAR-LIE! CHAR-LIE!”
B: [checks clock - three minutes]
M: “Can we take Darren Whopper now?”
B: [sighs] “Oh, you want a whopper?!”
M: “Whopper with royale!”
B: “We shouldn’t have shown you Pulp Fiction. You were too young.”
M: “Mother****** mother****** Jesus!”
B: “OK Matt. How about this. I do a little business here and then we’ll go to Burger Ki-”
M: “NO McFADDEN’S! McFADDEN’S McFADDEN’S McFADDEN’S!”
B: [can’t believe he’s going to have to go to McDonald’s, take burgers out of their wrappers, go to Burger King, take burgers out of their wrappers, and stick the Burger King burgers in the McDonald’s wrappers again] “OK, fine. McFadden’s it is. You just keep sticking G.I. Joes in the microwave.”
M: “They’re the Two Hundred and Seventy-Fourteenth Fighter Squadron!”
B: “OK, Matt. Gimme a second here.”

I’ll take McKelvin because his name sounds like McDonald’s, and that will make Matt happy. Also, although the Lions signed Brian Kelly and traded for Leigh Bodden, Kelly’s 32 and Bodden has alternately been healthy and mediocre the last two years.
– Bill Barnwell


:lol2:

[Angyair]

Forse questo farà perdere qualche posizione al draft a Groves, ma di sicuro gli esami fisici alle combine gli hanno evitato problemi più gravi:

Auburn outside linebacker Quentin Groves did not visit the 49ers today as originally planned, said Sean Kiernan of Impact Sports, the firm that represents Groves. The 49es rescheduled the pre-draft visit. It has nothing to do with Groves' recent surgery to correct a heart irregularity, Kiernan said.

Groves was diagnosed with Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome at the NFL scouting combine in February. Auburn was aware he might have had WPW, Kiernan said.

The condition is one in which there is an extra electrical circuit in the heart. If left untreated, WPW could lead to a rapid heart beat.

On March 27, Groves had an out-patient procedure in Birmingham, Ala., Kiernan said. A catheter was inserted into his leg and maneuvered up to his heart, where the extra electrical circuit was destroyed.

Groves was advised to avoid strenuous workouts for five days. Seven days after the procedure, he underwent an electrocardiogram and everything was "100-percent normal," Kiernan said.

"There are no long-term ramifications," Kiernan said. "Every team I've spoken to was pleased that he's already had this taken care of. We're very happy somebody picked up on this (at the combine) and that it's no longer an issue. Once it's taken care of, it's done."

Kiernan said he has every reason to believe this will have no impact whatsoever on Groves' draft status. Letters explaining Groves' condition were sent to each of the 32 NFL teams.

[Angyair]

Chi rimarrà più a lungo seduto al suo posto? 

The following players will be at the draft at Radio City on Saturday: LSU DT GLENN DORSEY, Ohio State DE VERNON GHOLSTON, Virginia DE CHRIS LONG, Michigan T JAKE LONG, Arkansas RB DARREN MC FADDEN and Boston College QB MATT RYAN.

[davelavarra]

Chi rimarrà più a lungo seduto al suo posto? 

Brady Quinn  :lol2:

[TheFan17]

Chi rimarrà più a lungo seduto al suo posto? 

The following players will be at the draft at Radio City on Saturday: LSU DT GLENN DORSEY, Ohio State DE VERNON GHOLSTON, Virginia DE CHRIS LONG, Michigan T JAKE LONG, Arkansas RB DARREN MC FADDEN and Boston College QB MATT RYAN.

Matt Ryan. Gholston non farà in tempo nemmeno a cercare una sedia...  :gazza:

[vikings11]

Matt Ryan. Gholston non farà in tempo nemmeno a cercare una sedia...  :gazza:

dagli ultimi rumors credo anch'io che Ryan vada per ultimo...

[saintsaji]

per me MCFADDEN andrà ai jets e quindi sarà quello seduto piu a lungo...gli altri andranno in squadre che scelgono prima dei jets per me

[Angyair]

Manningham reportedly failed two drug tests while at Michigan and then didn’t own up to them during interviews at the scouting combine. He and his agent have since sent letters to all 32 teams admitting that he failed the tests.

[The Snake 12]

Manningham reportedly failed two drug tests while at Michigan and then didn’t own up to them during interviews at the scouting combine. He and his agent have since sent letters to all 32 teams admitting that he failed the tests.

lo prendono di sicuro i Bengals  :gazza:

[Rocky]

Qualche spunto interessante da Peter King:

• Miami has a real chance of getting Jake Long signed as the No. 1 pick.

• St. Louis doesn't want Vernon Gholston; so if Long does go to Miami, Gholston could slide.

• This one really surprises me, and at first I didn't think it was true, but New Orleans is serious about trading into the top four -- preferably for LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey but not only for Dorsey. Wish I could tell you the other apple of their eye, but I don't know who he is.

• I have been saying Dorsey to Atlanta for a month. I heard two things this weekend that are shifting me northward, to Matt Ryan.

• The Jets love Matt Ryan. If I were Kellen Clemens, that would be a worrisome thing.

• If Ryan is sitting there at six or seven, I expect Detroit, Carolina and Chicago to inquire about trading up.

• The hot name as we enter the final five predraft days? Michigan quarterback Chad Henne. Two scouts I trust told me over the weekend they like him better than they like Ryan. There's a team somewhere between 8 and 17 -- and I can't figure out which one -- interested in trading down a few slots and drafting Henne with a first-round pick.

• The Saints and Jeremy Shockey's rookie-year offensive coordinator, Sean Payton, are still hot for the tight end. It won't get done if the Giants insist on receiving in-his-prime, 25-year-old safety Roman Harper (a 2006 second-round pick), plus the 40th pick in the draft. Harper's the best player in New Orleans' secondary, and to trade him and a second-round pick for an injury-plagued tight end who will be 28 on opening day is not an equitable deal. If the Giants want, say, Harper and a sixth-round pick for Shockey, or a second- and sixth-rounder for him, then I could see the trade getting done.

Per vedere il suo mock, qui.

-4! 

[The Snake 12]

breaking news : i Dolphins avrebbero trovato l'accordo con Jake Long

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/news/story?id=3358424

[pippo77]

breaking news : i Dolphins avrebbero trovato l'accordo con Jake Long

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/news/story?id=3358424

senza avrebbe...
su nfl.com c'è già il video della presentazione...

[Jeremy]

Ma così va via buona parte della suspense del draft...