Re: NFL Draft - La settimana della combine.

[Angyair]

Ma il Cromartie (per la precisione Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie da Tennesse State)che ha fatto faville nella settimana del Senior Bowl è parente dell'altro Cromartie? Molto bene anche il RB di Tulane Forte (MVP della gara), e mi è piaciuto il WR da Florida Andre Caldwell.

[The Snake 12]

Ma il Cromartie (per la precisione Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie da Tennesse State)che ha fatto faville nella settimana del Senior Bowl è parente dell'altro Cromartie? Molto bene anche il RB di Tulane Forte (MVP della gara), e mi è piaciuto il WR da Florida Andre Caldwell.

mi pare siano cugini.
ho letto che pure Sedrick Ellis ha giocato bene, mentre Colt Brennan e Joe Flacco hanno fatto fiasco

[Angyair]

mi pare siano cugini.
ho letto che pure Sedrick Ellis ha giocato bene, mentre Colt Brennan e Joe Flacco hanno fatto fiasco

Si, di Ellis anche si è parlato bene, Brennan e Flacco non li ho visti e quindi non saprei dirti, ma per Flacco si parla anche di un TD mancato per colpa di un WR.

[The Snake 12]

Si, di Ellis anche si è parlato bene, Brennan e Flacco non li ho visti e quindi non saprei dirti, ma per Flacco si parla anche di un TD mancato per colpa di un WR.

cmq nei torrenti si riesce già a pescare qualcosa 

[Angyair]

cmq nei torrenti si riesce già a pescare qualcosa 

Si ho già notato, ma ho potuto vedere gli ultimi 10 minuti in diretta, e non avendo tempo per vederlo....penso che non andrò a pesca oggi. :D

[TheFan17]

mi pare siano cugini.
ho letto che pure Sedrick Ellis ha giocato bene, mentre Colt Brennan e Joe Flacco hanno fatto fiasco

Anche una safety per Ellis, grande partita per lui che chiude una settimana in cui ha impressionato parecchio gli scouts. Bene Henne (grande lavoro di Lavelle Hawkins sul primo TD), Choice, Cromartie, Highsmith, Fortè, Ainge, Laws (5 solo, 6 tot, 1 sack, 1 tfl, 1 fr) mentre Coutu si conferma freddissimo kicker. Interessanti Hawkins e Douglas come slot-receiver. Flacco non ha avuto molte chance per lanciare. Booty ha commesso alcuni errori, lanciato un pessimo intercetto e perso 2 snaps. 

Martz da internare, pessima gestione e reverse totalmente inutile.

[The Snake 12]

Anche una safety per Ellis, grande partita per lui che chiude una settimana in cui ha impressionato parecchio gli scouts. Bene Henne (grande lavoro di Lavelle Hawkins sul primo TD), Choice, Cromartie, Highsmith, Fortè, Ainge, Laws (5 solo, 6 tot, 1 sack, 1 tfl, 1 fr) mentre Coutu si conferma freddissimo kicker. Interessanti Hawkins e Douglas come slot-receiver. Flacco non ha avuto molte chance per lanciare. Booty ha commesso alcuni errori, lanciato un pessimo intercetto e perso 2 snaps. 

Martz da internare, pessima gestione e reverse totalmente inutile.

Martz lo si conosce bene: estremo, narcisista, controverso. Ma pur sempre una delle migliori menti offensive in giro.

[GoPats]

Intanto posto la Value Chart utile per le trade.  :D

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Round 1 	Round 2 	Round 3 	Round 4 	Round 5 	Round 6 	Round 7
1 	3,000 	33 	580 	65 	265 	97 	112 	129 	43 	161 	27 	193 	14.2
2 	2,600 	34 	560 	66 	260 	98 	108 	130 	42 	162 	26.6 	194 	13.8
3 	2,200 	35 	550 	67 	255 	99 	104 	131 	41 	163 	26.2 	195 	13.4
4 	1,800 	36 	540 	68 	250 	100 	100 	132 	40 	164 	25.8 	196 	13
5 	1,700 	37 	530 	69 	245 	101 	96 	133 	39.5 	165 	25.4 	197 	12.6
6 	1,600 	38 	520 	70 	240 	102 	92 	134 	39 	166 	25 	198 	12.2
7 	1,500 	39 	510 	71 	235 	103 	88 	135 	38.5 	167 	24.6 	199 	11.8
8 	1,400 	40 	500 	72 	230 	104 	86 	136 	38 	168 	24.2 	200 	11.4
9 	1,350 	41 	490 	73 	225 	105 	84 	137 	37.5 	169 	23.8 	201 	11
10 	1,300 	42 	480 	74 	220 	106 	82 	138 	37 	170 	23.4 	202 	10.6
11 	1,250 	43 	470 	75 	215 	107 	80 	139 	36.5 	171 	23 	203 	10.2
12 	1,200 	44 	460 	76 	210 	108 	78 	140 	36 	172 	22.6 	204 	9.8
13 	1,150 	45 	450 	77 	205 	109 	76 	141 	35.5 	173 	22.2 	205 	9.4
14 	1,100 	46 	440 	78 	200 	110 	74 	142 	35 	174 	21.8 	206 	9
15 	1,050 	47 	430 	79 	195 	111 	72 	143 	34.5 	175 	21.4 	207 	8.6
16 	1,000 	48 	420 	80 	190 	112 	70 	144 	34 	176 	21 	208 	8.2
17 	950 	49 	410 	81 	185 	113 	68 	145 	33.5 	177 	20.6 	209 	7.8
18 	900 	50 	400 	82 	180 	114 	66 	146 	33 	178 	20.2 	210 	7.4
19 	875 	51 	390 	83 	175 	115 	64 	147 	32.6 	179 	19.8 	211 	7
20 	850 	52 	380 	84 	170 	116 	62 	148 	32.2 	180 	19.4 	212 	6.6
21 	800 	53 	370 	85 	165 	117 	60 	149 	31.8 	181 	19 	213 	6.2
22 	780 	54 	360 	86 	160 	118 	58 	150 	31.4 	182 	18.6 	214 	5.8
23 	760 	55 	350 	87 	155 	119 	56 	151 	31 	183 	18.2 	215 	5.4
24 	740 	56 	340 	88 	150 	120 	54 	152 	30.6 	184 	17.8 	216 	5
25 	720 	57 	330 	89 	145 	121 	52 	153 	30.2 	185 	17.4 	217 	4.6
26 	700 	58 	320 	90 	140 	122 	50 	154 	29.8 	186 	17 	218 	4.2
27 	680 	59 	310 	91 	136 	123 	49 	155 	29.4 	187 	16.6 	219 	3.8
28 	660 	60 	300 	92 	132 	124 	48 	156 	29 	188 	16.2 	220 	3.4
29 	640 	61 	292 	93 	128 	125 	47 	157 	28.6 	189 	15.8 	221 	3
30 	620 	62 	284 	94 	124 	126 	46 	158 	28.2 	190 	15.4 	222 	2.6
31 	600 	63 	276 	95 	120 	127 	45 	159 	27.8 	191 	15 	223 	2.3
32 	590 	64 	270 	96 	116 	128 	44 	160 	27.4 	192 	14.6 	224 	2

[chinasky]

Scout talk: Senior Bowl winners and losers

By Dan Pompei | Tribune pro football reporter 10:47 PM CST, January 26, 2008 After a week of watching Senior Bowl practice, NFL scouts are getting a better handle on how draft prospects should stack up in comparison with one another.

One of the big winners last week was Delaware quarterback Joe Flacco, who looked like the best passer in Mobile. One front-office man said Flacco has gone from a third-round pick to a high second-round pick, and it's even possible he could sneak into the first round. Flacco also may have passed Louisville's Brian Brohm as the second-ranked quarterback in the draft behind Matt Ryan of Boston College.

"Flacco doesn't have real good feet, but he has very good arm talent," one scout said.

Chad Henne of Michigan also showed well, but not all the quarterbacks helped themselves. Colt Brennan of Hawaii showed up at 186 pounds after a bout with the flu and showed questionable arm strength. Kentucky's Andre Woodson might have had a chance to move into the first round, but he did not capitalize.

The best player participating was Southern California defensive tackle Sedrick Ellis, who should be a top-seven pick. As expected, USC players dominated practice. Others who stood out were linebacker Keith Rivers and tight end Fred Davis.

The player who might have helped himself the most was Tennessee's Brad Cottam. During the season the tight end didn't play much and caught only five passes for 5 yards, but at the Senior Bowl he showed he can run and he also looked like he has some natural blocking ability.

Two offensive linemen practiced well. Vanderbilt's Chris Williams might have solidified his stock as a first-rounder, and Texas-El Paso's Oniel Cousins also helped himself.

On the defensive line, Maryland's Dre Moore was a pleasant surprise.

"On tape I didn't like him, but he was ballistic in the one-on-ones," one NFC college scouting director said.

Notre Dame defensive end Trevor Laws looked comfortable playing defensive tackle.

It was a strong group of cornerbacks, with Indiana's Tracy Porter, Auburn's Patrick Lee, Tennessee State's Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Alabama's Simeon Castille and Louisiana State's Chevis Jackson leading the way. Rodgers-Cromartie worked at safety also, and looked good at both positions.

Of Porter, another NFC executive said, "You wanted to see him be more physical, and he tried. He competed in practice."

Against better competition, Troy cornerback Leodis McKelvin did not fare as well as some scouts had hoped.

The best wide receiver in the game probably was Lavelle Hawkins from Cal. In addition to showing good speed, Hawkins appeared to have a complete game. Eddie Royal of Virginia Tech wasn't as productive in college as he could have been, but during Senior Bowl practices he looked like he has bona fide NFL skills.

Two running backs who helped themselves were Matt Forte from Tulane and Justin Forsett from California. Forsett is only 5 feet 8 inches, but he showed quickness, toughness and the ability to read defenses. One college director compared him to Michigan's Mike Hart, who opted not to participate.

[mr.kerouac]

Martz da internare, pessima gestione e reverse totalmente inutile.

perchè? ha vinto la partita...

[GoPats]

Migliori prospetti per una 3-4 D#

Per gli esperti di College, che ne pensate di questa lista?

[Angyair]

Mah.....McFadden fuori dai migliori 20 prospetti?

NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock has arrived at his pre-Scouting Combine rankings for the draft. All of these rankings are as of Feb. 12 and are subject to change.

TOP 20

1. Matt Ryan - QB, Boston College

2. Sedrick Ellis - DT, USC

3. Chris Long - DE, Virginia

4. Glenn Dorsey - DT, LSU

5. Vernon Gholston - DE, Ohio State

6. Jake Long - OL, Michigan

7. Ryan Clady - OL, Boise State

8. Keith Rivers - LB, USC

9. Phillip Merling - DE, Clemson

10. Leodis McKelvin - CB, Troy

11. Brandon Flowers - CB, Virginia Tech

12. Rashard Mendenhall - RB, Illinois

13. Jeff Otah - OL, Pittsburgh

14. Derrick Harvey - DE, Florida

15. Kentwan Balmer - DT, North Carolina

16. Aqib Talib - CB, Kansas

17. Chris Williams - OL, Vanderbilt

18. Mario Manningham - WR, Michigan

19. Limas Sweed - WR, Texas

20. Branden Albert - OL, Virginia

RANKINGS BY POSITION

Quarterback

1. Matt Ryan - Boston College

2. Chad Henne - Michigan

3. Brian Brohm - Louisville

4. Joe Flacco - Delaware

5. Andre Woodson - Kentucky

Running Back

1. Rashard Mendenhall - Illinois

2. Darren McFadden - Arkansas

3. Jonathan Stewart - Oregon

4. Felix Jones - Arkansas

5. Chris Johnson - East Carolina

Fullback

1. Jacob Hester - LSU

2. Peyton Hillis - Arkansas

3. Owen Schmitt - West Virginia

Wide Receiver

1. Mario Manningham - Michigan

2. Limas Sweed - Texas.

3. DeSean Jackson - California

4. Malcolm Kelly - Oklahoma

5. Early Doucet - LSU

Tight End

1, Fred Davis - USC

2. John Carlson - Notre Dame

3. Dustin Keller - Purdue

4. Jermichael Finley - Texas

5. Brad Cottam - Tennessee

Offensive Tackle

1. Jake Long - Michigan

2. Ryan Clady - Boise State

3. Jeff Otah - Pittsburgh

4. Chris Williams - Vanderbilt

5. Gosder Cherilus - Boston College

Interior Offensive Line

1. Branden Albert - Virginia

2. Chilo Rachal - USC

3. Roy Schuening - Oregon St.

4. Mike Pollak - Arizona State

5. Mackenzy Bernadeau - Bentley College

Defensive End

1. Chris Long - Virginia

2. Vernon Gholston - Ohio State

3. Phillip Merling - Clemson

4. Derrick Harvey - Florida

5. Lawrence Jackson - USC

Defensive Tackle

1. Sedrick Ellis - USC

2. Glenn Dorsey - LSU

3. Kentwan Balmer - North Carolina

4. Trevor Laws - Notre Dame

5. Letroy Guion - Florida State

Inside Linebacker

1. Dan Connor - Penn State

2. Curtis Lofton - Oklahoma

3. Spencer Larsen - Arizona

4. Beau Bell - UNLV

5. Jo-Lonn Dunbar - Boston College

Outside Linebacker

1. Keith Rivers - USC

2. Erin Henderson - Maryland

3. Xavier Adibi - Virginia Tech

4. Tavares Gooden - Miami (FL)

5. Ali Highsmith - LSU

Cornerback

1. Leodis McKelvin - Troy

2. Brandon Flowers - Virginia Tech

3. Aqib Talib - Kansas

4. Mike Jenkins - South Florida

5. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie - Tennessee State

Safety

1. DaJuan Morgan - N.C. State

2. Kenny Phillips - Miami (FL)

3. Thomas DeCoud - California

4. D.J. Wolfe - Oklahoma

5. Tyrell Johnson - Arkansas State

[all3n]

Opinabile il ranking dei RB, mentre sono assurdi quello dello safety, con Phillips secondo dietro a Morgan  , e, quello degli end, con Campbell fuori da 5.

[Angyair]

Occhio a Rodgers-Cromartie, secondo me questo è buono.

Anche se un giudizio dato da me ha il valore di un 2 di mazze con briscola a denari

[Squirek]

Mah.....McFadden fuori dai migliori 20 prospetti?

Secondo Mayock il buon McFadden ha gambe troppo esili per la NFL e quindi tenderebbe a cadere dopo il primo contatto con i difensori.