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Quarterback Alex Smith will undergo season-ending surgery on his right shoulder, a team spokesman said late tonight.
Smith was set to meet with team doctors this evening, he said several hours ago at the 49ers practice facility. Then he was going to speak with Dr. James Andrews, who examined him a couple weeks ago in Birmingham, Ala.
No date has been scheduled for the operation, and it has not been determined who will perform the surgery, 49ers spokesman Aaron Salkin said. The surgery is expected to require three months of rehab.
Smith will be placed on injured reserve, which will create a roster spot for a quarterback who is expected to be added Tuesday or Wednesday. Shaun Hill is the only healthy quarterback the 49ers have on their roster. They are expected to bring in one or more quarterbacks for a workout as early as Tuesday.
Smith never fully recovered from a separated right shoulder that he sustained Sept. 30 when Seattle defensive tackle Rocky Bernard sacked him on the third play of that game. Smith missed two games and tried to return. Clearly, the shoulder bothered him. After three ineffective games, Smith disclosed the extent of his injury. He has not played since the 49ers' game Monday, Nov. 12, at Seattle.
Smith had two weeks of rest and began throwing lightly last week. The 49ers' team doctors (through Stanford Hospital) put Smith on a conservative approach in hopes of avoiding surgery, Salkin said.
Notizia attesa da tempo; era meglio se lo facevano prima: era ovvio che fosse necessaria l'operazione.
Smith was set to meet with team doctors this evening, he said several hours ago at the 49ers practice facility. Then he was going to speak with Dr. James Andrews, who examined him a couple weeks ago in Birmingham, Ala.
No date has been scheduled for the operation, and it has not been determined who will perform the surgery, 49ers spokesman Aaron Salkin said. The surgery is expected to require three months of rehab.
Smith will be placed on injured reserve, which will create a roster spot for a quarterback who is expected to be added Tuesday or Wednesday. Shaun Hill is the only healthy quarterback the 49ers have on their roster. They are expected to bring in one or more quarterbacks for a workout as early as Tuesday.
Smith never fully recovered from a separated right shoulder that he sustained Sept. 30 when Seattle defensive tackle Rocky Bernard sacked him on the third play of that game. Smith missed two games and tried to return. Clearly, the shoulder bothered him. After three ineffective games, Smith disclosed the extent of his injury. He has not played since the 49ers' game Monday, Nov. 12, at Seattle.
Smith had two weeks of rest and began throwing lightly last week. The 49ers' team doctors (through Stanford Hospital) put Smith on a conservative approach in hopes of avoiding surgery, Salkin said.
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Quarterback Alex Smith is going to have his right shoulder surgically repaired, but repairing his relationship with 49ers Coach Mike Nolan could be more difficult.
In his strongest act of rebellion to date, Smith on Monday said that Nolan has tried to "undermine" his reputation in the locker room. In an exclusive interview with the Mercury News, Smith said Nolan made it clear to teammates that the quarterback was using injuries as an excuse for poor performance, a charge that has left Smith's locker-room reputation in shambles.
Smith, who had long been hinting that an operation was required, said he was frustrated by Nolan's repeated public comments - "the spin," as Smith called it - that questioned the quarterback's toughness. He even suggested that his health status has been left in limbo for so long by the 49ers because "if I had surgery, it would make them look bad."
The 49ers announced late Monday that Smith will have season-ending surgery.
A month ago, after a 24-0 loss to the Seattle Seahawks, the quarterback volunteered that his separated right shoulder was "killing him." Nolan had repeatedly said Smith's health was fine, setting off a brief dust-up between the coach and quarterback.
Smith said Monday that he had no problem with the public controversy, but said Nolan pushed it too far by making it an issue in the locker room.
"He came out and said some things to the team," Smith said. "It was like he was telling his side of it and I didn't want to get into it. . . . That was my biggest concern when he did that: I felt it was trying to undermine me with my teammates."
Blaming poor performance on injury is a cardinal sin of the athlete's code - especially in the ferocious warrior culture of the NFL. 49ers running back Frank Gore runs weekly on a sprained ankle; offensive lineman Justin Smiley made no mention of a torn labrum last season until after the season; Nolan even refused to answer questions about the death of his father, who died a day before the Seattle game, rather than risk it being interpreted as an excuse for a lopsided loss.
Smith, 23, understands.
"I think if (my teammates) would have heard what I actually said out there that day, it wouldn't have been an issue," he said. "But all of a sudden Nolan spins it as if I was making excuses for an injury. What I really felt like was, 'Yeah, I tried to play on it. And that was my decision and obviously I wasn't playing well enough.'
"But at that point my arm wasn't getting any better. In fact, it was getting worse and I was going to go get a second opinion. (Nolan) can spin it however he wants to, but the first thing Dr. Andrews told me when he saw me was 'This is much worse than I thought.' "
Nolan acknowledged at the time that there was a miscommunication, but since said his relationship with Smith had been patched up. He has, however, grown increasingly dismissive of questions about his quarterback's health status and has made no secret of his disdain for Smith's agent, Tom Condon, who interjected himself into the controversy when he suggested the 49ers botched the handling of Smith's injury.
Last week, Nolan said he remains surprised that Smith pulled himself out of action. He has said repeatedly that the diagnosis of Smith's injury, by both an outside doctor and team medical staff, has not deviated from a Grade III separation. And he has further described Smith's separation as "not very severe" for a Grade III.
Nolan also has continued to heap praise on Trent Dilfer not only for his strong play, but also for his toughness and passion. "I believe that Trent, as far as playing quarterback, puts his heart and soul into everything he does," Nolan said after a recent game. "It's evident every time he goes on the field. I admire that, and I think that he's given us the chance to win the games that he's played in."
Smith has all but become a persona non-grata in the 49ers' locker room after his injury controversy. Winning teammates back might be the hardest part of his rehabilitation.
Last week, Nolan was approached by a reporter and asked whether the tougher battle Smith faced was restoring his teammates' trust and confidence.
"You didn't ask me that question," Nolan said. "And I'm not going to answer it. I can't answer it."
No player was willing to go on the record when asked about the quarterback's leadership status, but no player rushed to his defense, either. "I'm not touching that one," one veteran said.
Another player recently refused to discuss the extent of his injury with a reporter because, he said, "I don't want it to be like Alex's interview where I'm blaming my production on it." Another acknowledged that certain members of the team have derisively referred to Smith as "The Lion," as in the one without courage in "The Wizard of Oz."
One assistant coach said Smith "made a mistake" when he went public about his ailing shoulder and now clearly is paying a price for his honesty. Another player said that Smith had to expect that there would be "consequences" for failing to keep his injury-related struggles in house.
Told of the mounting criticism, Smith sounded only mildly surprised.
"Well, no, I haven't noticed it - especially the guys around me - but like I said, Nolan is spinning it toward his direction," he said.
Smith demonstrated more durability a year ago when he became the first quarterback in 49ers history to take every snap over the course of the season. Only four other NFL quarterbacks did that in 2006, including Peyton Manning of the Indianapolis Colts.
Smith's struggles this season began Sept. 30 against Seattle when he suffered a separation of his throwing shoulder on an opening-drive sack. A month later, during his first game back, he clutched at his ailing shoulder so often that the game-day broadcasters repeatedly said the 49ers "had to get him out of there."
Smith finished that game - as well as the next two - and looked woeful, missing open receivers by several yards on errant throws. After his last game, Seahawks linebacker Julian Peterson said Smith was grimacing after every throw and clearly wasn't right.
Told that comment the next day, Nolan quipped, "That might mean something to me if Julian was a doctor."
che si fa? lo si tiene ancora a combinare disastri nolan?
In his strongest act of rebellion to date, Smith on Monday said that Nolan has tried to "undermine" his reputation in the locker room. In an exclusive interview with the Mercury News, Smith said Nolan made it clear to teammates that the quarterback was using injuries as an excuse for poor performance, a charge that has left Smith's locker-room reputation in shambles.
Smith, who had long been hinting that an operation was required, said he was frustrated by Nolan's repeated public comments - "the spin," as Smith called it - that questioned the quarterback's toughness. He even suggested that his health status has been left in limbo for so long by the 49ers because "if I had surgery, it would make them look bad."
The 49ers announced late Monday that Smith will have season-ending surgery.
A month ago, after a 24-0 loss to the Seattle Seahawks, the quarterback volunteered that his separated right shoulder was "killing him." Nolan had repeatedly said Smith's health was fine, setting off a brief dust-up between the coach and quarterback.
Smith said Monday that he had no problem with the public controversy, but said Nolan pushed it too far by making it an issue in the locker room.
"He came out and said some things to the team," Smith said. "It was like he was telling his side of it and I didn't want to get into it. . . . That was my biggest concern when he did that: I felt it was trying to undermine me with my teammates."
Blaming poor performance on injury is a cardinal sin of the athlete's code - especially in the ferocious warrior culture of the NFL. 49ers running back Frank Gore runs weekly on a sprained ankle; offensive lineman Justin Smiley made no mention of a torn labrum last season until after the season; Nolan even refused to answer questions about the death of his father, who died a day before the Seattle game, rather than risk it being interpreted as an excuse for a lopsided loss.
Smith, 23, understands.
"I think if (my teammates) would have heard what I actually said out there that day, it wouldn't have been an issue," he said. "But all of a sudden Nolan spins it as if I was making excuses for an injury. What I really felt like was, 'Yeah, I tried to play on it. And that was my decision and obviously I wasn't playing well enough.'
"But at that point my arm wasn't getting any better. In fact, it was getting worse and I was going to go get a second opinion. (Nolan) can spin it however he wants to, but the first thing Dr. Andrews told me when he saw me was 'This is much worse than I thought.' "
Nolan acknowledged at the time that there was a miscommunication, but since said his relationship with Smith had been patched up. He has, however, grown increasingly dismissive of questions about his quarterback's health status and has made no secret of his disdain for Smith's agent, Tom Condon, who interjected himself into the controversy when he suggested the 49ers botched the handling of Smith's injury.
Last week, Nolan said he remains surprised that Smith pulled himself out of action. He has said repeatedly that the diagnosis of Smith's injury, by both an outside doctor and team medical staff, has not deviated from a Grade III separation. And he has further described Smith's separation as "not very severe" for a Grade III.
Nolan also has continued to heap praise on Trent Dilfer not only for his strong play, but also for his toughness and passion. "I believe that Trent, as far as playing quarterback, puts his heart and soul into everything he does," Nolan said after a recent game. "It's evident every time he goes on the field. I admire that, and I think that he's given us the chance to win the games that he's played in."
Smith has all but become a persona non-grata in the 49ers' locker room after his injury controversy. Winning teammates back might be the hardest part of his rehabilitation.
Last week, Nolan was approached by a reporter and asked whether the tougher battle Smith faced was restoring his teammates' trust and confidence.
"You didn't ask me that question," Nolan said. "And I'm not going to answer it. I can't answer it."
No player was willing to go on the record when asked about the quarterback's leadership status, but no player rushed to his defense, either. "I'm not touching that one," one veteran said.
Another player recently refused to discuss the extent of his injury with a reporter because, he said, "I don't want it to be like Alex's interview where I'm blaming my production on it." Another acknowledged that certain members of the team have derisively referred to Smith as "The Lion," as in the one without courage in "The Wizard of Oz."
One assistant coach said Smith "made a mistake" when he went public about his ailing shoulder and now clearly is paying a price for his honesty. Another player said that Smith had to expect that there would be "consequences" for failing to keep his injury-related struggles in house.
Told of the mounting criticism, Smith sounded only mildly surprised.
"Well, no, I haven't noticed it - especially the guys around me - but like I said, Nolan is spinning it toward his direction," he said.
Smith demonstrated more durability a year ago when he became the first quarterback in 49ers history to take every snap over the course of the season. Only four other NFL quarterbacks did that in 2006, including Peyton Manning of the Indianapolis Colts.
Smith's struggles this season began Sept. 30 against Seattle when he suffered a separation of his throwing shoulder on an opening-drive sack. A month later, during his first game back, he clutched at his ailing shoulder so often that the game-day broadcasters repeatedly said the 49ers "had to get him out of there."
Smith finished that game - as well as the next two - and looked woeful, missing open receivers by several yards on errant throws. After his last game, Seahawks linebacker Julian Peterson said Smith was grimacing after every throw and clearly wasn't right.
Told that comment the next day, Nolan quipped, "That might mean something to me if Julian was a doctor."
che si fa? lo si tiene ancora a combinare disastri nolan?
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direi che bisogna per forza fare una scelta a sto punto e hai fatto a testate con un quarterback da 8 milioni di dollari! chi pensavi vincesse?multiple wrote: Brutta, brutta storia...
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Beh... uno dei due deve andare via.
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mvp18 wrote: Beh... uno dei due deve andare via.
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ipotesi di lavoro per una discussione: e se nolan avesse ragione? se smith non sapesse soffrire e fosse veramente delicatino che non ha saputo/voluto stringere i denti?
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avv hai seguito le partite dei niners dopo che smith è rientrato? mi sembra si possa dire tutto ma non che è delicatinoAlvise wrote: ipotesi di lavoro per una discussione: e se nolan avesse ragione? se smith non sapesse soffrire e fosse veramente delicatino che non ha saputo/voluto stringere i denti?
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non puoi smontarmela subito eccheddiamine... devo anche averlo postato tempo fa che secondo me aveva qualche problema, ma forse si fa condizionare troppo (insisto nel tentativo): e non chimarmi avv. abbi pietà.mr.kerouac wrote: avv hai seguito le partite dei niners dopo che smith è rientrato? mi sembra si possa dire tutto ma non che è delicatino
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Concordo con Keruac.
Abbastanza scontato che uno dei due sia destinato a cambiare aria a fine stagione e a questo punto mi auguro sia Nolan perché mi sta deludendo molto non solo dal punto di vista tecnico ma anche in quello della gestione del personale.
Un po' di fiducia in Smith invece contunuo ad averla; magari dal punto di vista squisitamente tecnico ancora non ha convinto (ma con un OC di valore come Turner aveva fatto discrete cose) ma sono convinto che abbia grandi doti caratteriali. Il fatto di aver giocato nonostante fosse palesemente non in grado di scendere in campo dal mio punto di vista è un punto a suo favore perché ha dimostrato attributi e grande attaccamento alla causa. Mi auguro che con un coaching staff diverso che sappia sfuttare al meglio le sue caratteristiche e le sua qualità possa dimostrare in pieno il suo valore.
Abbastanza scontato che uno dei due sia destinato a cambiare aria a fine stagione e a questo punto mi auguro sia Nolan perché mi sta deludendo molto non solo dal punto di vista tecnico ma anche in quello della gestione del personale.
Un po' di fiducia in Smith invece contunuo ad averla; magari dal punto di vista squisitamente tecnico ancora non ha convinto (ma con un OC di valore come Turner aveva fatto discrete cose) ma sono convinto che abbia grandi doti caratteriali. Il fatto di aver giocato nonostante fosse palesemente non in grado di scendere in campo dal mio punto di vista è un punto a suo favore perché ha dimostrato attributi e grande attaccamento alla causa. Mi auguro che con un coaching staff diverso che sappia sfuttare al meglio le sue caratteristiche e le sua qualità possa dimostrare in pieno il suo valore.
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L'ultimo articolo sul blog di Maiocco dice molte delle cose che penso: entrambi hanno sbagliato, poco da ribattere.
Le conseguenze per Nolan sono che ora può vedere incrinatala sua posizione con il resto dello spogliatoio, perdere ancora di più la fiducia dei tifosi (se n'è rimasto qualcuno oltre me :D ...già per la partita di sabato sembra che si prospettino diverse proteste) e naturalmente perdere il posto. Ma quella che rischia di perdere maggiormente in questa situazione è, secondo me, Smith perché con le sue dichiarazioni può perdere la fiducia dello spogliatoio che lo può vedere come un "bimbo viziato che va a lamentarsi con la mamma". E' vero che ha giocato contro i Saints nonostante la spalla gli facesse male, e difatti ricordo dichiarazioni di alcuni giocatori, tra cui Gore, che ne elogiavano il comportamento da leader, però poi è stato lui a dichiarare prima alla stampa, dopo la partita di Seattle in cui è stato molto criticato, che la spalla gli stava creando problemi. L'ultima cosa che vuol vedere un giocatore di football è un compagno che dichiara che sta giocando male per colpa degli infortuni. Quando giochi e tifi fai male ti chiedono: "sei infortunato o non puoi giocare?". Le voci che qualcuno degli altri giocatori possa chiamare Smith come il Leone del Mago di Oz sono quanto di peggio potesse capitare allo Smith QB, e di conseguenza a noi tifosi.
L'augurio è che da tutto questo casino riescano ad uscirne in maniera rapida e ricompattando la squadra (e sarà già difficile) facendo tesoro di tutti gli errori di comunicazione e di personalità che hanno entrambi fatto.
Le conseguenze per Nolan sono che ora può vedere incrinatala sua posizione con il resto dello spogliatoio, perdere ancora di più la fiducia dei tifosi (se n'è rimasto qualcuno oltre me :D ...già per la partita di sabato sembra che si prospettino diverse proteste) e naturalmente perdere il posto. Ma quella che rischia di perdere maggiormente in questa situazione è, secondo me, Smith perché con le sue dichiarazioni può perdere la fiducia dello spogliatoio che lo può vedere come un "bimbo viziato che va a lamentarsi con la mamma". E' vero che ha giocato contro i Saints nonostante la spalla gli facesse male, e difatti ricordo dichiarazioni di alcuni giocatori, tra cui Gore, che ne elogiavano il comportamento da leader, però poi è stato lui a dichiarare prima alla stampa, dopo la partita di Seattle in cui è stato molto criticato, che la spalla gli stava creando problemi. L'ultima cosa che vuol vedere un giocatore di football è un compagno che dichiara che sta giocando male per colpa degli infortuni. Quando giochi e tifi fai male ti chiedono: "sei infortunato o non puoi giocare?". Le voci che qualcuno degli altri giocatori possa chiamare Smith come il Leone del Mago di Oz sono quanto di peggio potesse capitare allo Smith QB, e di conseguenza a noi tifosi.
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La cosa peggiore che ha fatto Smith e' stata quella di "non lavare i panni sporchi in casa". Se anche fosse successo tutto quello che dice (Nolan che lo denigra negli spogliatoi, ecc...), secondo me devi prendere il coach da una parte e chiarire e se non funziona lo prendi davanti a tutti e butti fuori la cosa, ma niente, niente, niente di tutto questo deve finire sui giornali!
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sulla prima parte: fonti attendibilissime dicono che antonio bryant, unico giocatore decente del nostro parco ricevitori dello scorso anno, sia stato tagliato non perchè positivo ma perchè di fronte a tutto lo spogliatoio si è permesso di criticare nolan e non parlò con la stampa all'epocaAngyair wrote: Veramente disse che le cose non dovevano uscire dallo spogliatoio, siano le fonti giocatori, tecnici o altro, non che non dovevano dire "a".
L'85 inizi almeno a non fare sempre false start, a non droppare palloni e a ragionare sul campo da football prima di appendere qualcuno: il ruolo di go-to-guy non te lo devi conquistare con le parole.
sulla seconda parte: d'accordo ma ci sono state alcune partite in cui vernon è stato usato solo per bloccare e altre amenità varie. oh poi non è che la palla non andava a lui ma andava ad owens o wayne... nel nostro attacco uno con quei mezzi lì, a patto che non abbia le mani amputate, dovrebbe essere il go to guy di diritto
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Bryant ha sempre avuto problemi in qualsiasi posto e' finito, oltretutto e' stato squalificato: non credo tu possa portarlo come esempio di "punizione eccessiva" di Nolan. Oltretutto, dopo un buon inizio, era calato nettamente, magari proprio per gli stessi motivi per cui is e' preso la squalifica....mr.kerouac wrote: sulla prima parte: fonti attendibilissime dicono che antonio bryant, unico giocatore decente del nostro parco ricevitori dello scorso anno, sia stato tagliato non perchè positivo ma perchè di fronte a tutto lo spogliatoio si è permesso di criticare nolan e non parlò con la stampa all'epoca
Sulle valutazioni fatte da Noaln su alcuni giocatori lascaiti andare o tagliati per motivi disciplinari o scelte tecniche non credo che possiamo dire molto: il LB di cui ora mi sfugge il nome che ando' a Jacksonville mi pare che non abbia fatto molto; di AB abbiamo gia' detto; Llyod (ci abbiamo preso due scelte con lui...) gioca ancora e ha mai avuto un impatto a Washington?
Di giocatori che abbiano fatto grossi exploit dopo che li ha lasciati andare non ne ricordo, ma la mia memoria non e' buona
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Re: Il Lato Giusto Della Baia - Nebbia fitta sulla baia. Ma fitta fitta eh!
Non so quali sono queste fonti attendibilissime, ma l'anno scorso Bryant fece 3 partite alla grande poi andò sempre più calando fino alla squalifica per alcolismo, a me sembra che sia stato tagliato più per questo e per le prestazioni deludenti che per altro, ma posso tranquillamente sbagliarmi. D'altronde ora sta facendo benissimo a....dov'è che sta giocando ora?
Sul fatto che dovrebbe essere il nostro go to guy sono daccordissimo, io quest'anno puntavo molto sulla sua esplosione, ma quello che vali lo devi dimostrare sul campo in ogni azione, anche quando ti dicono di restare a bloccare (visto anche come sta giocando la linea): l'impressione mia è che VD tende a deconcentrarsi o a non dare il massimo se non si sente chiamato in causa, e questo un giocatore di football non deve permetterselo.
Per multi, forse l'unico che andato via ha fatto qualcosa è Peterson, ma a lui fu messo il TAG (mi sembra l'ultima stagione di Erickson?) con l'accordo di lasciarlo andare l'anno dopo.
Sul fatto che dovrebbe essere il nostro go to guy sono daccordissimo, io quest'anno puntavo molto sulla sua esplosione, ma quello che vali lo devi dimostrare sul campo in ogni azione, anche quando ti dicono di restare a bloccare (visto anche come sta giocando la linea): l'impressione mia è che VD tende a deconcentrarsi o a non dare il massimo se non si sente chiamato in causa, e questo un giocatore di football non deve permetterselo.
Per multi, forse l'unico che andato via ha fatto qualcosa è Peterson, ma a lui fu messo il TAG (mi sembra l'ultima stagione di Erickson?) con l'accordo di lasciarlo andare l'anno dopo.