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SF Giants - 2012 World Series Champions!!!
Riapriamo la vecchia casa, nei prossimi giorni vediamo di sistemarla un po'.
[align=center]GO GIANTS!!![/align]
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Jeremy wrote: [align=center]GO GIANTS!!![/align]
Ora sì che mi sento a casa
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Re: McCovey Cove 2.0 - Our San Francisco Giants
A casa pure io pero' ragazzi...con il trasloco ci siamo persi per sempre i msg della scorsa postseason...che sono su forumfree.
Magari si potrebbe raccogliere in un singolo post "The best of..." di tutto l'ottobre scorso nella nostra sezione.
Magari si potrebbe raccogliere in un singolo post "The best of..." di tutto l'ottobre scorso nella nostra sezione.
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Re: McCovey Cove 2.0 - Our San Francisco Giants
Se qualcuno non ha ancora visitato MLBalwaysepic e in particolare la parte dedicata a Brian Wilson fateci una capatina.Andateci perché è divertente.
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Re: McCovey Cove 2.0 - Our San Francisco Giants
In attesa di notizie fresche vi ricordo che è sempre attivo il blog gestito da JohnOJ: http://sfgiantsitalia.wordpress.com/
In questi giorni ci stiamo divertendo con le pagelle, ogni contributo è ben accetto.
In questi giorni ci stiamo divertendo con le pagelle, ogni contributo è ben accetto.
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Jeremy wrote:In attesa di notizie fresche vi ricordo che è sempre attivo il blog gestito da JohnOJ: http://sfgiantsitalia.wordpress.com/
In questi giorni ci stiamo divertendo con le pagelle, ogni contributo è ben accetto.
E speriamo arrivino presto (buone) notizie fresche
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Ad averci tempojohnOJ wrote:Jeremy wrote:In attesa di notizie fresche vi ricordo che è sempre attivo il blog gestito da JohnOJ: http://sfgiantsitalia.wordpress.com/
In questi giorni ci stiamo divertendo con le pagelle, ogni contributo è ben accetto.
E speriamo arrivino presto (buone) notizie fresche
Ma rimedieremo
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Dalla settimana prossima credo si muoverà qualcosa, almeno a livello di rumors... :pujols:johnOJ wrote:Jeremy wrote:In attesa di notizie fresche vi ricordo che è sempre attivo il blog gestito da JohnOJ: http://sfgiantsitalia.wordpress.com/
In questi giorni ci stiamo divertendo con le pagelle, ogni contributo è ben accetto.
E speriamo arrivino presto (buone) notizie fresche
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Le nostre prospettive in vista della offseason secondo mlbtraderumors.com
Offseason Outlook: San Francisco Giants
By Tim Dierkes [October 27, 2011 at 7:39am CST]
The Giants want to determine the long-term futures of their top starting pitchers, and support them in 2012 with improved offense at shortstop or in the outfield.
Guaranteed Contracts
Barry Zito, SP: $46MM through 2013, unless 2014 option vests
Aubrey Huff, 1B: $12MM through 2012
Matt Cain, SP: $15MM through 2012
Brian Wilson, RP: $8.5MM through 2012
Freddy Sanchez, 2B: $6MM through 2012
Contractual Options
Jeremy Affeldt, Type B RP: $5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Arbitration Eligible Players (estimated salaries)
Tim Lincecum, SP: $19.2MM
Jonathan Sanchez, SP: $5.2MM
Pablo Sandoval, 3B: $3.2MM
Jeff Keppinger, 2B: $2.7MM
Andres Torres, CF: $2.5MM (non-tender candidate)
Ryan Vogelsong, SP: $2.5MM
Ramon Ramirez, RP: $2.3MM
Santiago Casilla, RP: $1.9MM
Sergio Romo, RP: $1.3MM
Mike Fontenot, IF: $1.3MM (non-tender candidate)
Nate Schierholtz, RF: $1.2MM
Eli Whiteside, C: $700K (non-tender candidate)
Emmanuel Burriss, IF: $600K (non-tender candidate)
Free Agents
Carlos Beltran (Type A RF, can't be offered arbitration), Cody Ross (Type B OF), Mark DeRosa (unranked IF/OF), Javier Lopez (Type B RP), Pat Burrell (Type B LF), Orlando Cabrera (unranked IF), Guillermo Mota (unranked RP)
The Giants won a World Series in 2010 based on great pitching, despite a middling offense. The following offseason GM Brian Sabean was not aggressive in pursuing upgrades, and the Giants' offense had little margin for error heading into the 2011 season. Huff and Torres declined markedly this year, while Sandoval and Buster Posey suffered critical injuries. The result was the worst offense in the National League, despite solid midseason additions of Beltran and Keppinger.
It's natural to think Sabean adds a couple of offensive-minded position players this winter, but payroll constraints could get in the way. The team's payroll is expected to remain around $125MM, and the Giants have an expensive and large arbitration class. Lincecum, Sanchez, and Sandoval could total nearly $30MM. Non-tendering or trading other arbitration eligibles like Torres and Fontenot won't make a big difference. Sabean spoke in September about Jonathan Sanchez as a viable candidate for the fifth starter job, but trading him could create much-needed payroll flexibility. Keppinger is another movable piece, if the Giants feel Freddy Sanchez will be healthy for 2012. Declining Affeldt's option or exercising it and trading the lefty could clear some payroll space, but Sabean expects the reliever back next year. Lopez may depart for greener pastures, but he's worthy of an arbitration offer, enabling the Giants to acquire a supplemental draft pick.
Sabean's initial offseason focus is clear, as he told reporters, "Our pitching’s going to get expensive, that’s the punch line and we have to take care of that first." Cain is locked in at $15MM next year, but it's clear Sabean views extending him as a pressing concern. Any years added beyond 2012 will surely be north of $15MM, so Cain's situation affects the Giants' ability to sign big multiyear free agent deals.
Lincecum's salary is an unknown, but with a historic arbitration case on the horizon, the Giants can expect $18-20MM for 2012. Lincecum's 2013 salary projects as even more, and knocking a few million off per year with a multiyear deal would create cost certainty. If Lincecum drives a hard bargain, his two arbitration years might cost the team $40MM as part of a multiyear deal. Adding another six free agent years at $22MM per season would result in a contract worth more than $170MM, the largest ever for a pitcher. I'm not sure the Giants should take that plunge.
The Giants are interested in re-signing Beltran, and you have to wonder if there is an element of saving face since they surrendered top prospect Zack Wheeler for a couple months of Beltran in the July trade. Sabean's comments imply a greater focus on a leadoff hitter/center fielder. Coco Crisp would probably require a two-year deal, and he posted just a .314 on-base percentage this year. Grady Sizemore and David DeJesus are one-year deal options, though their ability to play center field every day is in question. The best free agent fit might be Jimmy Rollins, an Oakland native who could fill the team's shortstop and leadoff void while also improving the defense. The idea of signing Prince Fielder or Albert Pujols seems silly, having discussed the Giants' payroll and priorities.
The Giants project to have at least one more year of elite pitching, so it's up to the game's longest-tenured GM to assemble a passable offense. Sabean appears to be up against budget limitations, though he has mentioned the possibility of asking ownership for additional money toward adding a specific player. That request makes sense, with the window on Cain and Lincecum potentially closing.
Offseason Outlook: San Francisco Giants
By Tim Dierkes [October 27, 2011 at 7:39am CST]
The Giants want to determine the long-term futures of their top starting pitchers, and support them in 2012 with improved offense at shortstop or in the outfield.
Guaranteed Contracts
Barry Zito, SP: $46MM through 2013, unless 2014 option vests
Aubrey Huff, 1B: $12MM through 2012
Matt Cain, SP: $15MM through 2012
Brian Wilson, RP: $8.5MM through 2012
Freddy Sanchez, 2B: $6MM through 2012
Contractual Options
Jeremy Affeldt, Type B RP: $5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Arbitration Eligible Players (estimated salaries)
Tim Lincecum, SP: $19.2MM
Jonathan Sanchez, SP: $5.2MM
Pablo Sandoval, 3B: $3.2MM
Jeff Keppinger, 2B: $2.7MM
Andres Torres, CF: $2.5MM (non-tender candidate)
Ryan Vogelsong, SP: $2.5MM
Ramon Ramirez, RP: $2.3MM
Santiago Casilla, RP: $1.9MM
Sergio Romo, RP: $1.3MM
Mike Fontenot, IF: $1.3MM (non-tender candidate)
Nate Schierholtz, RF: $1.2MM
Eli Whiteside, C: $700K (non-tender candidate)
Emmanuel Burriss, IF: $600K (non-tender candidate)
Free Agents
Carlos Beltran (Type A RF, can't be offered arbitration), Cody Ross (Type B OF), Mark DeRosa (unranked IF/OF), Javier Lopez (Type B RP), Pat Burrell (Type B LF), Orlando Cabrera (unranked IF), Guillermo Mota (unranked RP)
The Giants won a World Series in 2010 based on great pitching, despite a middling offense. The following offseason GM Brian Sabean was not aggressive in pursuing upgrades, and the Giants' offense had little margin for error heading into the 2011 season. Huff and Torres declined markedly this year, while Sandoval and Buster Posey suffered critical injuries. The result was the worst offense in the National League, despite solid midseason additions of Beltran and Keppinger.
It's natural to think Sabean adds a couple of offensive-minded position players this winter, but payroll constraints could get in the way. The team's payroll is expected to remain around $125MM, and the Giants have an expensive and large arbitration class. Lincecum, Sanchez, and Sandoval could total nearly $30MM. Non-tendering or trading other arbitration eligibles like Torres and Fontenot won't make a big difference. Sabean spoke in September about Jonathan Sanchez as a viable candidate for the fifth starter job, but trading him could create much-needed payroll flexibility. Keppinger is another movable piece, if the Giants feel Freddy Sanchez will be healthy for 2012. Declining Affeldt's option or exercising it and trading the lefty could clear some payroll space, but Sabean expects the reliever back next year. Lopez may depart for greener pastures, but he's worthy of an arbitration offer, enabling the Giants to acquire a supplemental draft pick.
Sabean's initial offseason focus is clear, as he told reporters, "Our pitching’s going to get expensive, that’s the punch line and we have to take care of that first." Cain is locked in at $15MM next year, but it's clear Sabean views extending him as a pressing concern. Any years added beyond 2012 will surely be north of $15MM, so Cain's situation affects the Giants' ability to sign big multiyear free agent deals.
Lincecum's salary is an unknown, but with a historic arbitration case on the horizon, the Giants can expect $18-20MM for 2012. Lincecum's 2013 salary projects as even more, and knocking a few million off per year with a multiyear deal would create cost certainty. If Lincecum drives a hard bargain, his two arbitration years might cost the team $40MM as part of a multiyear deal. Adding another six free agent years at $22MM per season would result in a contract worth more than $170MM, the largest ever for a pitcher. I'm not sure the Giants should take that plunge.
The Giants are interested in re-signing Beltran, and you have to wonder if there is an element of saving face since they surrendered top prospect Zack Wheeler for a couple months of Beltran in the July trade. Sabean's comments imply a greater focus on a leadoff hitter/center fielder. Coco Crisp would probably require a two-year deal, and he posted just a .314 on-base percentage this year. Grady Sizemore and David DeJesus are one-year deal options, though their ability to play center field every day is in question. The best free agent fit might be Jimmy Rollins, an Oakland native who could fill the team's shortstop and leadoff void while also improving the defense. The idea of signing Prince Fielder or Albert Pujols seems silly, having discussed the Giants' payroll and priorities.
The Giants project to have at least one more year of elite pitching, so it's up to the game's longest-tenured GM to assemble a passable offense. Sabean appears to be up against budget limitations, though he has mentioned the possibility of asking ownership for additional money toward adding a specific player. That request makes sense, with the window on Cain and Lincecum potentially closing.
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L'analisi è completa, ed esemplifica al meglio quello che è chiaro da un bel po', con un payroll in particolare sui lanciatori che non ci permette grandi manovre.
Quest'anno sarà ancora su quest falsariga, magari cercando qualche upgrade, ma dalla prossima stagione c'è la seria possibilità di vedere grandi cambiamenti.
Quest'anno sarà ancora su quest falsariga, magari cercando qualche upgrade, ma dalla prossima stagione c'è la seria possibilità di vedere grandi cambiamenti.
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Rifirmato Javier Lopez (4,25 milioni all'anno per 2 anni) ed esercitata l'opzione per Affeldt (5 milioni). Due LHP importanti che continueranno a vestire la nostra maglia
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Pensavo che si sarebbe provato a rifirmare Affeldt ad una cifra un po' inferiore ma va bene così, il bullpen va toccato il meno possibile.
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Sono cifre non esattamente basse per dei rilievi però sono dei lanciatori che hanno un valore specifico alto. Bene così dai.
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Un fa eravamo felici...
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Un? un mese? no, un mese fa eravamo incazzati neri per la stagione orrendaJeremy wrote:Un fa eravamo felici...
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