Philadelphia Phillies 07'-08'-09'-10'-11' NL East Champions

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phillies63 wrote:Cambiare 4 o 5 lanciatori nel 9 inning a me neofita del BB m'e' parsa una cazzata. Nn ho capito ad es. perchè ha cambiato kendrick che il suo l'aveva fatto. Solo perchè aveva lanciato un po piu' di un inning la sera prima? Anche perchè poi ha tenuto papelbon a lanciare x chiudere la partita quando aveva già lanciato le due sere precedenti.
Nel 9° ha messo Horst, mancino, contro Ethier che era in striscia di 0-23 contro i LHP. Invece Ethier ha battuto valido, capita ma la mossa non era sbagliata.

Nel 10° ha messo Papelbon in save situation. Sappiamo quanto tengano a certi concetti i manager e magari si poteva pensare di mettere un altro, ma in ogni caso non ci si poteva aspettare che subisse 2 ER dall'attacco dei Dodgers, che poi iniziava pure con la parte bassa del lineup.

Nell'11° Diekman ha tenuto benone e quindi Manuel ha voluto tenerlo un altro inning. Ha voluto affrontare Kemp che non stava battendo molto, e gli è andata male. Ecco, considerando anche che Diekman è mancino forse si poteva andare di IBB e affrontare altri.

Comunque, parlando solo di questa partita, non mi sembra questo corollario di scempiaggini. Poi si può discutere sulla bravura generale di Manuel, ma alla fine non è poi tanto diverso dalla maggior parte dei manager MLB.
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siamo praticamente riusciti ad avere il peggior record casalinga della MLB, ci manca una sconfitta per raggiungere kansas :( Ieri 3 HR e poi in tutti gli altri turni di battute 2 valide
Manuel di nuovo fa lanciare papelbon in una partita tirata x 2 inning, 36 lanci, e si finisce con una sconfitta

Continuo a pensare che basterebbe poco per invertire la rotta almeno un pochino
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144 per 6. King Cole resta a casa :notworthy:
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The Answer Palermitano wrote:144 per 6. King Cole resta a casa :notworthy:

ne avete di soldi eh??
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The Answer Palermitano wrote:144 per 6. King Cole resta a casa :notworthy:
:forza: :applauso: :metal: notizia più' bella non poteva esserci! Il ns cole,il signore dell'anello, non poteva lasciarci!
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Phillies wrote: :forza: :applauso: :metal: notizia più' bella non poteva esserci! Il ns cole,il signore dell'anello, non poteva lasciarci!
Oh bentornato! in effetti sta arrivando qualche vittoria consecutiva... :fischia:
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The Answer Palermitano wrote:144 per 6. King Cole resta a casa :notworthy:
:forza: :applauso: :metal: notizia più' bella non poteva esserci! Il ns cole,il signore dell'anello, non poteva lasciarci!

Finalmente Phillies :forza: :forza:
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molto bene, la firma di cole e l'ennesima vittoria incredibile con i brewers. E adesso sotto con atlanta
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All right, now that we know Cole Hamels is staying, what might the Phillies be up to at the trade deadline?

According to sources, Shane Victorino remains the Phillie most likely to be dealt before next Tuesday’s deadline. The Pirates want him, sources say. The Dodgers also have interest. The hitch? No team has yet come forward with a package that would entice the Phillies to make a move. (The Reds reportedly turned down an offer for Victorino.)

There have been reports that the Phillies are looking to deal Hunter Pence. While the Phillies have indeed gauged interest on Pence, it would be difficult to part with him and still make a playoff charge over the final two months. If the Phils become full-blown sellers in the next week, Pence could go. If they fancy themselves as a playoff hopeful – and after four straight wins, three by comeback against Milwaukee and its wretched bullpen, the Phillies do -- they might have to hang on to Pence, at least for the remainder of the season. With Hamels on the books for $24 million per season over the next six years, the Phils could look to shed payroll over the winter and Pence, who could make about $15 million in arbitration, could be moved then.

Cliff Lee’s name remains warm on the trade front, but his situation is like Pence’s: The Phils probably need him to make a playoff run. Shopping him over the winter could make more sense to the Phils' short-term goals.

Juan Pierre is another player who has garnered interest, particularly from Cincinnati. Placido Polanco’s recent sore back probably takes him out of play. Joe Blanton could probably be had, but teams haven’t been knocking down the Phils' door for him.

Victorino will be eligible for free agency at season’s end, and it’s unlikely the Phillies will re-sign him. Dealing him now would save the club about $3 million in payroll, which would help the team get under the $178 million luxury-tax threshold. The Phils opened the season with a $174 million payroll and bonuses and reinforcements from the minors have put the team close to the threshold. If the Phils go over $178 million, they would pay a 17.5 percent tax on every dollar they go over. Second-time offenders pay 30 percent, so this is a serious concern.

Club president David Montgomery was asked Wednesday whether he believed the Phillies were currently under the threshold.

“Probably not,” he said.

Montgomery called tax payments “unproductive payroll.” While he prefers to stay under the tax threshold, Montgomery acknowledged that it might be necessary to go over the threshold this season or next.

With a week to go before the trade deadline, Montgomery said the Phillies were neither buyers nor sellers.

“We’re improvers,” he said. “We’re always looking for ways to improve. We had a really disappointing first half, but there’s so much left of this year.

“We have the club we envisioned now,” he added, referring to a healthy Chase Utley and Ryan Howard. “We hope we can build some excitement with that.”

Meanwhile, Victorino hopes to remain part of the excitement. He said it would be difficult to leave.

“Of course, why wouldn’t it be?” he said. “I made myself the player I am in this city. But I’m in a Phillies uniform now and that’s my focus.”

lee, victorino, pence: ridimensionamento in vista? :penso:
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Aria di trade....
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I Phillies hanno dato a Hamels soldi che non hanno, essendo un'organizzazione già fortemente indebitata che però continua ad alzare il payroll invece di ridurlo. Già questa sarebbe una vergogna. Adesso stanno disperatamente cercando di recuperare dei fondi da qualche parte per pagarlo.

Hanno offerto Victorino ai Reds in cambio di Ondrusek, poi ai Dodgers in cambio di Lindblom, ma non se n'è fatto niente per ora. A fine stagione Victorino è FA ed a meno di non finire come la Lazio di Cragnotti, non potranno rinnovarlo.

Poi tanto alla fine fanno il mercato con soldi che non hanno, quindi a questo punto non escludo più niente, neanche che rinnovino anche Victorino e Pence per poi andare a piangere con l'ufficio del commissioner per avere altri soldi dal fondo globale (ossia dalle altre squadre) per ripianare i loro debiti. E' una situazione quasi senza precedenti.
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"We felt like it was the right thing to do under the circumstance with his performance, his age, his importance with our club," general manager Ruben Amaro said. "Our goal is to continue to be a championship-caliber team, for now and the future. As I've said before, I think we have a much better chance with Cole as a major part of our rotation than without him."

se effettivamente sono al collasso economicamente la vedo dura mantenere queste promesse
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esiste un sito dove ci sono i payroll delle varie squadre della mlb?
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Se non ho letto male l'anno prossimo 4 giocatori chiameranno 95M. 4 su 25. E uno di quei 4 è Ryan Howard.
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